Do you think that MCCP is dying?

[Payton]

Do you?

Personally, I think the content is dying down, and the overall user base is, too. I guess that as Club Penguin got older, so did the users that were around in the very beginning and since the users got older, they moved on. :(

What's your two cents on this?

[link4562]

No infact I think it is growing since last year. It had it's guaranteed second-year downfall, and now it's balancing back out and becoming more lively. Not as lively as when it was opened, but still very lively. Last year, we barely had any new users who stayed very long. This year, we have many new users who are still here.

[Payton]

No infact I think it is growing since last year. It had it's guaranteed second-year downfall, and now it's balancing back out and becoming more lively. Not as lively as when it was opened, but still very lively. Last year, we barely had any new users who stayed very long. This year, we have many new users who are still here.

I'm not talking about the number of users or posts. I'm talking about the content compared to that of 2007/2008.

[Bloopinator™]

The activity definitely is much less than what it used to be, but it's not necessarily dying. There are active members who come here daily who keep this place alive still.

[link4562]

I'm not talking about the number of users or posts. I'm talking about the content compared to that of 2007/2008.
Yeah, I know. The amount of new posts per day is a lot higher than this time last year. Last year barely anyone ever posted during school. This year a lot of people are posting more often. I'd say that the uPick contests and achievements and BBSP definately contribute to the increase in posts/threads.

[Guardian Ou]

I came online yesterday seeing that only 10 subforums had new posts in them.

Yes, it is dying.

[Payton]

I'm not sure what correlation post counts and content directly have with each other but I suppose in that sense the site is kind of dying, as well. I am mainly concerned about the content that's being posted these days. I mean, compare a thread in the Programming Penguins forum to one that was posted back in the day by Rod Rego. You'll definitely see a difference in the community (the members posting), the comments that were given back to the thread creator, etc.

[link4562]

I'm not sure what correlation post counts and content directly have with each other but I suppose in that sense the site is kind of dying, as well. I am mainly concerned about the content that's being posted these days. I mean, compare a thread in the Programming Penguins forum to one that was posted back in the day by Rod Rego. You'll definitely see a difference in the community (the members posting), the comments that were given back to the thread creator, etc.
That was back when the forums weren't even one year old yet. Of course this place won't be as lively as it was then. All games grow old. All kids grow into adults. The idea of a forum for a kid's game is less popular than it was then. There were more users and less posts per user back then. Now there are less users, but each user is posting more. Samwesty999 showed me a graph of mccp's posts once but I don't have the link on hand.

[Steve Green]

Well, people tend to lose interest in things. I don't really see anything to look foward to. uPick is coming out soon, but not many great ideas have been presented. MCCP is pretty slow right now, but we have made comebacks before.

[link4562]

Nevermind. It looks like MCCP is dying. Here's a graph from last October through last September:
http://www.big-boards.com/img/graphs/wp2220.png
That blue line is inacurate. I'm guessing the BBSP forums were opened on all those dates where the bar is unusually high. But overall it is going down.

[Steve Green]

Nevermind. It looks like MCCP is dying. Here's a graph from last October through last September:
http://www.big-boards.com/img/graphs/wp2220.png
That blue line is inacurate. I'm guessing the BBSP forums were opened on all those dates where the bar is unusually high. But overall it is going down.

Right now we are where we were in April. It picked up then, why not now?

[link4562]

Right now we are where we were in April. It picked up then, why not now?
I'm guessing the BBSP forums had something to do with it. If I remember correctly, the BBSP forums were re-opened then and had even more posts than it's debut.

[Payton]

Right now we are where we were in April. It picked up then, why not now?

I guess because school was ending around April for many people, and now, school is starting back up again.

[Projectmatt]

Now that school is here, activity on this forum is slowing down. I really want to pick it back up again, but how?
This forum is way too awesome to die and I hope that it will never.
Perhaps we should open BBSP again. Or at least open something new and interesting.
Knowing the mods, I bet they have something up their sleeves.

[link4562]

Now that school is here, activity on this forum is slowing down. I really want to pick it back up again, but how?
This forum is way too awesome to die and I hope that it will never.
Perhaps we should open BBSP again. Or at least open something new and interesting.
Knowing the mods, I bet they have something up their sleeves.
I don't think the BBSP would do much, since people are in school again. The best we can do is get people to come back and get more people involved in forum activities, and maybe try recruiting people to come here.

[Payton]

Now that school is here, activity on this forum is slowing down. I really want to pick it back up again, but how?
This forum is way too awesome to die and I hope that it will never.
Perhaps we should open BBSP again. Or at least open something new and interesting.
Knowing the mods, I bet they have something up their sleeves.

Well I already have a basic ... ideaofwhatmighthappenduetoamistakethatdragministra torguymade. :scary: But I won't give anything away.

I'm not so much concerned about the post count as much as I am the content in the posts, as noted before.

[link4562]

Well I already have a basic ... idea of what might happen due to a mistake that dragministratorguy made. :scary: But I won't give anything away.

I'm not so much concerned about the post count as much as I am the content in the posts, as noted before.
What mistake are you talking about?

And I think Draco's MCCP movie thing will probably help get people back and get this place more active.

[Payton]

What mistake are you talking about?

And I think Draco's MCCP movie thing will probably help get people back and get this place more active.

I told you I'm not saying anything about it (so I can taunt you all). Now back on topic before I hit you with bamboo whip!

[Steve Green]

How about we come up with some solutions?

[Projectmatt]

Let's say that we have really cool informative posts. That means nothing if we get two posts once a week. The activity of people does matter. Also Link, look at that chart. BBSP obviously does bring a lot of activity to the forum. It's something new, and it's something for people to act crazy in. Crazy people like me tend to enjoy that.

[Payton]

How about we come up with some solutions?

I guess that would be a pretty good idea. :balthasar: What do you have in mind?

[link4562]

Let's say that we have really cool informative posts. That means nothing if we get two posts once a week. The activity of people does matter. Also Link, look at that chart. BBSP obviously does bring a lot of activity to the forum. It's something new, and it's something for people to act crazy in. Crazy people like me tend to enjoy that.
Yeah, I know. But I'm saying it won't bring back as much activity as it has in the past. It will definately spike the activity and amount of posts, but it won't be as big as in the past. And it would only last for maybe the first couple weeks it's open. After that it will become less popular. If it is only brought back for short periods of time, every so often, it will maintain most of its popularity. But if it keeps getting opened all the time, it will lose popularity and will become useless. I'd say it's too early to re-open it.

I guess that would be a pretty good idea. :balthasar: What do you have in mind?
I have some ideas:
We could all try to help advertize these forums on any blogs or websites that we are willing to advertize it on. We could try to come up with a forum-community project for us all to work on. We could all start creating clubs again, and newspapers and such. Some popular things in the past were things like Peng Cards. Also club penguin contests were popular. We just need to do a better job at keeping people here when school returns. A lot of people leave then, many never to return.

[Payton]

Yeah, I know. But I'm saying it won't bring back as much activity as it has in the past. It will definately spike the activity and amount of posts, but it won't be as big as in the past. And it would only last for maybe the first couple weeks it's open. After that it will become less popular. If it is only brought back for short periods of time, every so often, it will maintain most of its popularity. But if it keeps getting opened all the time, it will lose popularity and will become useless. I'd say it's too early to re-open it.


I have some ideas:
We could all try to help advertize these forums on any blogs or websites that we are willing to advertize it on. We could try to come up with a forum-community project for us all to work on. We could all start creating clubs again, and newspapers and such.

I'm planning out Project: Restoration (or Project: Restore MCCP) and I'm hoping that's going to work. I think the clubs, newspapers, etc. idea is great, and a definite good start.

[link4562]

I'm planning out Project: Restoration (or Project: Restore MCCP) and I'm hoping that's going to work. I think the clubs, newspapers, etc. idea is great, and a definite good start.
I'm excited to see what your Project: Restoration is. It sounds like a good idea. I'm thinking of getting Sam to re-open the Forum Focus newspaper. There are a lot of things to talk about since it closed down.

[Blobbitybloo]

It does kind of feel like this place is winding down, but that shouldn't happen. :unsure:

[Payton]

I'm excited to see what your Project: Restoration is. I'm thinking of getting Sam to re-open the Forum Focus newspaper. There are a lot of things to talk about since it closed down.

Whatever newspaper we do I'd be glad to write something for it. :)

[link4562]

Whatever newspaper we do I'd be glad to write something for it. :)
That would be awesome if you could join it once Sam agrees to re-open it (assuming he DOES reopen it *cough Sam cough*). I was thinking that this topic in this thread would be a great story to put in a forum newspaper. This is a topic catching the minds of many forumers here.

[Newtown11]

I think the problem is that many are turned off by the penguin aspect of this forum. I personally think it should be advertised as a general chat forum with a sub-forum for CP talk. Just an idea.

[Payton]

That would be awesome if you could join it once Sam agrees to re-open it (assuming he DOES reopen it *cough Sam cough*). I was thinking that this topic in this thread would be a great story to put in a forum newspaper. This is a topic catching the minds of many forumers here.

I could write something and I know from previous chats with Draco that he has a good bit of information he could contribute. :P A good re-debut story for the paper would be this topic, or the Project: Restoration topic, in which the issue could be all about that one subject (not written by just me of course, we'd need more than one person to help).

[link4562]

I think the problem is that many are turned off by the penguin aspect of this forum. I personally think it should be advertised as a general chat forum with a sub-forum for CP talk. Just an idea.
That would kind of take away the point of calling these forums the Mini Clip Club Penguin forums.
I could write something and I know from previous chats with Draco that he has a good bit of information he could contribute. :P A good re-debut story for the paper would be this topic, or the Project: Restoration topic, in which the issue could be all about that one subject (not written by just me of course, we'd need more than one person to help).
Yeah. I was thinking it would be cool if we did something like an "expert analysis" of the "forums dying" where multiple people give their input and opinions on this. We could also put in things like your Project: Restoration, and other things as well to show what we are doing to try to restore it.

[Zmac93]

One of the reasons these forums aren't as great as they used to be is because we've all become very biased, or alot of us. It's as if the users that we all know have become the Vital Vipers of a new age, so to speak. You could post something extremely well thought out, and very well put, it won't matter. Not unless you're well known, that is.
I'm speaking from experience. I've posted many things that I put alot of thought into, and because I'm not loved, no one acknowledged that it was there. If we could, instead of skipping over threads not made by well known people, give our thoughts on every thread/post we read then we could get more activity.
This might be why people were so turned off by this place. No one would really read, or comment on their posts so they thought that they meant nothing to this community. It's still happening now.

I might be sensative, but I see this happening alot.

[Payton]

One of the reasons these forums aren't as great as they used to be is because we've all become very biased, or alot of us. It's as if the users that we all know have become the Vital Vipers of a new age, so to speak. You could post something extremely well thought out, and very well put, it won't matter. Not unless you're well known, that is.
I'm speaking from experience. I've posted many things that I put alot of thought into, and because I'm not loved, no one acknowledged that it was there. If we could, instead of skipping over threads not made by well known people, give our thoughts on every thread/post we read then we could get more activity.
This might be why people were so turned off by this place. No one would really read, or comment on their posts so they thought that they meant nothing to this community. It's still happening now.

I might be sensative, but I see this happening alot.

That's been happening for a while and I agree, it needs to be changed. In the rules, if you go down to the popularity rule (which I quoted on my forum since it's so true) you'll find that this is mentioned, saying we should not be biased towards older and more popular users but instead give everyone a fair chance.

Edit:
This is what I mentioned:
► This forum is not about popularity, it's about making friends and having a good time talking about Club Penguin and other stuff. Please don't make polls about who is cooler or showing off how many posts you have or when you joined. New users can be just as cool as you, give them a chance too. Likewise, do NOT insult users based upon their join date or post count. It is quality over quantity, and if we catch you doing it, then we are going to reset your account to ZERO posts and TODAY as your join date.

[Zmac93]

That's been happening for a while and I agree, it needs to be changed. In the rules, if you go down to the popularity rule (which I quoted on my forum since it's so true) you'll find that this is mentioned, saying we should not be biased towards older and more popular users but instead give everyone a fair chance.

Exactly, yet we're not. I don't really have any thoughts on most of the posts, but if I do, I will definately give my thoughts. No matter if it's Draco, or a mod, or a new member. I will, to the best of my abilities, give them my stand point.

EDIT: Most of the people here don't follow that. I recall many of my threads(I'm using myself as an example because, well, it's happened alot to me) just being overlooked. Or they've have maybe 60 views, but 2 or 3 posts. It's not always the case, but most of the time, I'm overlooked. I don't know whether it's because most of the people here dislike me, but it makes you feel invaluable.
That's also another reason many people have been leaving with problems. Instead of consoling them, and helping them through it, we ridicule them for silly things. It's like high school jumped from the halls, and onto the internet.

[link4562]

Exactly, yet we're not. I don't really have any thoughts on most of the posts, but if I do, I will definately give my thoughts. No matter if it's Draco, or a mod, or a new member. I will, to the best of my abilities, give them my stand point.

EDIT: Most of the people here don't follow that. I recall many of my threads(I'm using myself as an example because, well, it's happened alot to me) just being overlooked. Or they've have maybe 60 views, but 2 or 3 posts. It's not always the case, but most of the time, I'm overlooked. I don't know whether it's because most of the people here dislike me, but it makes you feel invaluable.
That's also another reason many people have been leaving with problems. Instead of consoling them, and helping them through it, we ridicule them for silly things. It's like high school jumped from the halls, and onto the internet.
I admit I have done that before. I'm starting to reply to good posts more often now. I'm shedding off my old self that had enemies and did not care for newbies. It makes you look like a better person if you are equally replying to posts instead of only popular forumer's posts. I remember when I first came here, it wasn't like that. People did read my potst and reply to them. These forums have lost that special touch in a sense.

[Zmac93]

I admit I have done that before. I'm starting to reply to good posts more often now. I'm shedding off my old self that had enemies and did not care for newbies. It makes you look like a better person if you are equally replying to posts instead of only
popular forumer's posts.

I think all of us have, I have I'm sure. So this might be the thing we need to work on. Instead of attempting to drum up more activity, why don't we work on being less biased towards people.

Also, another thing I see that sort of goes along with this is things like this:

I saw a suggestion, for Upick, and a person replied with something like "Life and emotion basically does that." That's not really being nice. We should still be blunt, and unafraid to tell our thoughts, yet we should make it a little more thought out.

I remember when I first came here, it wasn't like that. People did read my potst and reply to them. These forums have lost that special touch in a sense.

It was the same with me, like 3 years ago. My first post was me asking how to become a moderator. And instead of sarcastic, mean comments, I got the real thing. A mod came on and politely told me that that was against the rules, and locked the thread.
I still felt bad for not thinking, but at least I wasn't ridiculed.

[link4562]

I think all of us have, I have I'm sure. So this might be the thing we need to work on. Instead of attempting to drum up more activity, why don't we work on being less biased towards people.

Also, another thing I see that sort of goes along with this is things like this:

I saw a suggestion, for Upick, and a person replied with something like "Life and emotion basically does that." That's not really being nice. We should still be blunt, and unafraid to tell our thoughts, yet we should make it a little more thought out.
I saw that post. They didn't exactly put much thought into it. And the sad part is, that post isn't an uncommon type of post these days.

[Zmac93]

I saw that post. They didn't exactly put much thought into it. And the sad part is, that post isn't an uncommon type of post these days.

Yeah, it's not good. But how can we stop this, and make it better? Or do you think we can?

[link4562]

Yeah, it's not good. But how can we stop this, and make it better? Or do you think we can?
No, we certainly cannot. It takes one to create an idea, but it takes a whole community to create change. If these forums are going to change, every last one of us better be ready to change. Us few in this thread alone, and well known forumers cannot do it all on our own.

[Payton]

No, we certainly cannot. It takes one to create an idea, but it takes a whole community to create change. If these forums are going to change, every last one of us better be ready to change. Us few in this thread alone, and well known forumers cannot do it all on our own.

Hence why I'm starting Project: Restoration in the days to come.

[Zmac93]

Hence why I'm starting Project: Restoration in the days to come.

Can you give us an idea as to what it is? Or will we have to wait and see?

[Payton]

Can you give us an idea as to what it is? Or will we have to wait and see?

Much like myself, this is - as of now - a mystery...

:tetsumonchi:

[Zmac93]

Much like myself, this is - as of now - a mystery...

:tetsumonchi:

D:. Alright, well, I shall be waiting for this. The name alone sounds awesome.

[Check]

Yeah, I think it definitely is. There's nothing new or incredible being posted, just the same thing recycled over and over.

[Chandru]

There will be more new people who come of age and join. We may have lost some of the originals, but not everyone. Besides, the new movie will generate some interest.

[Snathan!]

I wouldn't say it's dying. I can't say I have anywhere near as much fun as I did when I first joined, but perhaps that's just because I've been here too long.

[SaFiEtCP]

Before we used to get lots of new threads everyday and loads of posts, I do agree that activity here at MCCP has slowed down, but people like me come on everyday to keep this place alive. If your talking about Miniclip.com or clubpenguin.com, they arent dying. Also, a lot of great forumers leave every month

[Pen Rua]

Yes, to a certain extent. It isn't as active as it was back when I joined.

[ThisIsSparta]

The reason that the forum is dropping in activity is, as some people said, because school has started. Although there was a lot of more posting in, for example, January this year, I don't think this place is dying. As long as we post and do our best to contribute to the community, it won't die.

Hence why I'm starting Project: Restoration in the days to come.

I'm in!

[The Observer]

The reason that the forum is dropping in activity is, as some people said, because school has started. Although there was a lot of more posting in, for example, January this year, I don't think this place is dying. As long as we post and do our best to contribute to the community, it won't die.



I'm in!

It wasn't really active in the summer either. It was more like the winter of 2007-8.

[link4562]

Well Sam's not sure about re-opening the forum focus newspaper. So would anyone be interested if I opened a new newspaper? I've got some templates ready, and an idea for a name.

[Payton]

Well Sam's not sure about re-opening the forum focus newspaper. So would anyone be interested if I opened a new newspaper? I've got some templates ready, and an idea for a name.

I've already said I'd help contribute, so you can count me in on this.

[leelad999]

These forums are nowhere near as active or fun as to when I first joined. I guess a lot of people just got bored and people who are joining either get banned or stay for about a week. It is a subject that crosses my mind a lot, I mean I've been here since the start and what have I got to show for it? A couple of succesful clubs and role plays? I won't be leaving this forum until I permanently leave my mark on them (I could be here a while I guess :P ) I have contemplated quitting but then I just think of all the wonderful people here on the forums.

I guess I would be up for a little newspaper writing, Link.

[Lily]

When I first joined I guess, I just came back because there were so many people and the idea of being a moderator here was fascinating. So, I posted more and became active at that point I gave up CP because it was getting too stupid with all the little kids pretending to date each other. After a while I realized I had more important things to do. So, I just come and go now.

[Samwesty999]

Yes, MCCP is definitely dying, but lets just be thankful that it isn't dead yet. I wasn't here for the first year of MCCP, but I even when I did first join, I can remember it being much livelier. I'd be willing to try and bring MCCP back to life, but I don't think there is that much I can do now. I will still be thinking though.

[flippysam]

It definately used to be livelier with great club penguin parties going on all the time, obvously everyone got bored of club penguin. MCCP is on it's last legs but if the wrong forumers leave it can start a chain reaction and everyone will have left.

[Oceanside344]

Compared to a year ago, yeah it is kinda. I don't really see too many new users that stay around for very long(either get banned or leave), and slowly the original forumers are leaving too.

[STaLAmiTe 67]

Yes of course it is. I want it to stay and get bigger. but every time I see a thread its the same people every time. Its either one of the mods or someone whos posted in this thread.

[Tolni]

Looks like this (http://penguinforum.miniclip.com/showthread.php?t=68068&highlight=MCCP+dull%3F) thread`s topic is getting in the air again, and the funny is that we`re posting the same content as in it, and it`s in the last months of the year.

[iJustin]

Just for the record this is the most active CP forum out there - now, but yes it is dying.

I think the collapse is that people don't not like what CP has become, and people are getting older.

[walmartshrty]

Don't worry, guys.

I'm back. :D

[Lux Aeterna]

A good way to get more people posting and new ideas coming is refering your friends to get on here! If everyone starts to tell their friends and tell people on other sites you go to about the forum, it will get more active over time.

If the person isn't into Club Penguin at all, just tell them how great the Non-CP part of the forums are.

Dracophile will always continue to bring cool ideas to the forum for all of its members, we need more and more people to enjoy them though! :)