Cleveland Indians

[Chief Wahoo]

Any Tribe fans here?? post somethin if you like the tribe!

[Bluematt]

TRIBE SUCK GO CARDS W0000T. lol sorry about caps;)

[Chief Wahoo]

soo u like the cardinals? well the tribe is gonna own all this year.the cardinals r pretty good but not as good as the tribes players like hafner, sizemore, peralta, sebathia, and more.

[MizzouFan0306]

soo u like the cardinals? well the tribe is gonna own all this year.the cardinals r pretty good but not as good as the tribes players like hafner, sizemore, peralta, sebathia, and more.
Not as good as the Tribe players? LOL. The Cards have much better players. Dude, we won the freaking world series last year.

Hafner, Sizemore, and Peralta don't even come close to the Cards players. We have Pujols, Rolen, Edmonds, Carpenter, Encarnacion, and others. We pwn the Tribe. Cleveland's players kind of suck.

[Chief Wahoo]

Yea rite the Cards dont own ny1. they mite have some good players.. but they arnt doin good. Pujols, who is supposed to be the best player in the league only has like a .220 average. Yea hes real good =/

[MizzouFan0306]

Yea rite the Cards dont own ny1. they mite have some good players.. but they arnt doin good. Pujols, who is supposed to be the best player in the league only has like a .220 average. Yea hes real good =/
We don't own anyone? Oh yeah, then care to explain why we are the WORLD CHAMPIONS? You don't make any sense. We own the stupid Indians. When's the last time they won the world series, or even come close to it? Exactly. Cards won last year.

Yeah, we're off to a rough start, but we've only played like 18 games. There are 144 games left in the season. We will get better and we will make the playoffs AGAIN. It doesn't matter what you do in the first 20 games. It matters what you do in the playoffs. October games are more important than games being played in April, and we proved that. The Indians aren't even doing amazing either. The Cardinals always make the Playoffs -- the Indians don't. We are so much better.

LOL, your last comment is laughable. You don't think Pujols is good? Wow. He's only 27 years old, he's already won rookie of the year, MVP, and a golden glove. He has hit over 40 HR's and 110 RBI's in every season so far, and he always has an average over .320. He's the best hitter in the league. You can't even argue that. He will get better. He just hit a game winning 3-run HR against the Cubs yesterday. He's still on pace for 45 HR's and like 115 RBI's. He's an amazing hitter, and his start means nothing. He always heats up in May and June. He's a great hitter, and I'd say he's the best. Cleveland doesn't have any hitters that even compare to him.

Sorry, but the Cardinals are EASILY better than the Tribe.

[Chief Wahoo]

U gotta stop living in the past. who cares if they won last year!!!! It makes no difference this year what happened to them last year! In NHL, last year the Carolina hurricanes won the stanley cup, this year their not even in the playoffs!! Nything can change in a year, and so far, the cards r gonna end up like the hurricanes. And so far the Cards r 10-10, 4th in their division, and the Tribe is 8-7, 3rd in their division. So whos better now!!!!????And i dont care if the tribe hasnt won many pennants cuz that just shows that im not a dumb bandwagon fan who only likes a team because they won the pennant, unlike u.

[MizzouFan0306]

U gotta stop living in the past. who cares if they won last year!!!! It makes no difference this year what happened to them last year! In NHL, last year the Carolina hurricanes won the stanley cup, this year their not even in the playoffs!! Nything can change in a year, and so far, the cards r gonna end up like the hurricanes. And so far the Cards r 10-10, 4th in their division, and the Tribe is 8-7, 3rd in their division. So whos better now!!!!????And i dont care if the tribe hasnt won many pennants cuz that just shows that im not a dumb bandwagon fan who only likes a team because they won the pennant, unlike u.
Wow, get a clue.

I'm not living in the past. The Cardinals STILL ARE the champs, bud. And we will make the playoffs this year. The Cardinals team in baseball is nothing like the Hurricanes in hockey. We actually have some superstars, Carolina doesn't this year. That's totally different, idiot. Quit comparing two different sports.

You're comparing these teams to see who's better after 18 games? WOW. It doesn't matter what you do in the first 20 games of the season. It matters at the end. Let's see who's better once the playoffs start. I gaurantee it will be the Cardinals. You asked me who's better now, so I will answer: the Cardinals are still better. Are the Indians the champs? No. Are the Cards? Yes. So, who's better now? The Cardinals. Case closed. Nice try but that question backfired on you.

I'm not a bandwagon fan, idiot. I've been a Cardinals fan for over 10 years. You can even check the miniclip forums -- I stated that I was a fan before last season even started, so HA! You can even check, I made posts saying that way before the World Series. I've always been a Cards fan. I'm a fan of every STL Sports team, and I have proof that I'm not a bandwagon fan: My favorite NHL team (the Blues) finished in last place in 2005-2006, and they finished 20th this year, but they're still my team. My favorite football team (Rams) hasn't been in the playoffs in a few years, but I'm still a fan.
You don't know me so quit assuming things. I'm not a bandwagon fan. I've always been a Cards fan. Bandwagon fans are people like you. People who only like Texas in college football because they won two years ago, or Florida since they won last year. I've always been a fan of my teams. That's not bandwagon. You're just mad because the Cardinals are better than the Indians. Sorry, but Cleveland sports kind of suck.

[Chief Wahoo]

Wow, get a clue.

I'm not living in the past. The Cardinals STILL ARE the champs, bud. And we will make the playoffs this year. The Cardinals team in baseball is nothing like the Hurricanes in hockey. We actually have some superstars, Carolina doesn't this year. That's totally different, idiot. Quit comparing two different sports.

You're comparing these teams to see who's better after 18 games? WOW. It doesn't matter what you do in the first 20 games of the season. It matters at the end. Let's see who's better once the playoffs start. I gaurantee it will be the Cardinals. You asked me who's better now, so I will answer: the Cardinals are still better. Are the Indians the champs? No. Are the Cards? Yes. So, who's better now? The Cardinals. Case closed. Nice try but that question backfired on you.

I'm not a bandwagon fan, idiot. I've been a Cardinals fan for over 10 years. You can even check the miniclip forums -- I stated that I was a fan before last season even started, so HA! You can even check, I made posts saying that way before the World Series. I've always been a Cards fan. I'm a fan of every STL Sports team, and I have proof that I'm not a bandwagon fan: My favorite NHL team (the Blues) finished in last place in 2005-2006, and they finished 20th this year, but they're still my team. My favorite football team (Rams) hasn't been in the playoffs in a few years, but I'm still a fan.
You don't know me so quit assuming things. I'm not a bandwagon fan. I've always been a Cards fan. Bandwagon fans are people like you. People who only like Texas in college football because they won two years ago, or Florida since they won last year. I've always been a fan of my teams. That's not bandwagon. You're just mad because the Cardinals are better than the Indians. Sorry, but Cleveland sports kind of suck.

U r living in the past!! i told u that who cares if they won last year! it makes no difference!!! And wow just because u posted that doesnt mean its true. Ur probably full of bs and just say uve been a fan for 10 years. And actually cleveland teams dont suck, because they have the Cavs who r doin good.so yea. and actually the first 20 games does matter because in hockey (i dont care if its a different sport) the sabres started off in first place for the first 20 games and ended up in first place at the end of the season, so yea ur a moron. ur a bandwagon fan in denial and just mad that the trube will finish better than the cards this year

[MizzouFan0306]

U r living in the past!! i told u that who cares if they won last year! it makes no difference!!! And wow just because u posted that doesnt mean its true. Ur probably full of bs and just say uve been a fan for 10 years. And actually cleveland teams dont suck, because they have the Cavs who r doin good.so yea. and actually the first 20 games does matter because in hockey (i dont care if its a different sport) the sabres started off in first place for the first 20 games and ended up in first place at the end of the season, so yea ur a moron. ur a bandwagon fan in denial and just mad that the trube will finish better than the cards this year
No, I'm not living in the past. You keep saying how they suck, so I brought up the world series to back up my argument. You don't have an argument at all. You're clueless. So tell me, who are the CURRENT world champions? The answer is the Cardinals. Yes, they are still the champs. I'm not living in the past. That's a terrible argument.

I'm full of "BS"? Wow. Do you wanna bet? Because I have been a fan for over 10 years. You're just getting jealous because this is your first year following the Indians. You're not a true fan.

Cleveland teams do suck. The Indians and the Browns are pretty bad. The Cavs are their only good team, but they still won't go too far in the playoffs.

Once again, quit comparing hockey to baseball. There's only 82 games in hockey. There's 162 in baseball, so you have a lot more time to catch up. It matters in hockey, but not in baseball. Stop comparing two different sports. They are totally different. We're talking about baseball here, not hockey.

Get a clue about sports before you post. YOU are the moron. I love how you have to steal all of my words. How old are you, like 11? Haha. I'm not a bandwagon fan. I've been an STL Sports fan for over 10 years. You're just mad that you're not a true sports fan like me ... Ohhh it looks like you're the one in denial. The Cards will finish higher than the Tribe -- you're just mad. "Moron".

[Chief Wahoo]

No, I'm not living in the past. You keep saying how they suck, so I brought up the world series to back up my argument. You don't have an argument at all. You're clueless. So tell me, who are the CURRENT world champions? The answer is the Cardinals. Yes, they are still the champs. I'm not living in the past. That's a terrible argument.

I'm full of "BS"? Wow. Do you wanna bet? Because I have been a fan for over 10 years. You're just getting jealous because this is your first year following the Indians. You're not a true fan.

Cleveland teams do suck. The Indians and the Browns are pretty bad. The Cavs are their only good team, but they still won't go too far in the playoffs.

Once again, quit comparing hockey to baseball. There's only 82 games in hockey. There's 162 in baseball, so you have a lot more time to catch up. It matters in hockey, but not in baseball. Stop comparing two different sports. They are totally different. We're talking about baseball here, not hockey.

Get a clue about sports before you post. YOU are the moron. I love how you have to steal all of my words. How old are you, like 11? Haha. I'm not a bandwagon fan. I've been an STL Sports fan for over 10 years. You're just mad that you're not a true sports fan like me ... Ohhh it looks like you're the one in denial. The Cards will finish higher than the Tribe -- you're just mad. "Moron".

Hahahhahahahahahaha thats hilarious. I just started following the tribe?? hahahaha. Actually no. I was a tribe fan back when they had manny ramirez, richie sexson, jim thome,david justice, and lost to boston in the playoffs. ur full of it. and actually the cardinals r the 06 world champions. the 07 world champions r yet to be dtermines duhh. just because their last years world champions, not this years. haha and u think im 11?? ha how old r u like 20 or somethin likin them for 10 years (which is bs). wow

[MizzouFan0306]

Hahahhahahahahahaha thats hilarious. I just started following the tribe?? hahahaha. Actually no. I was a tribe fan back when they had manny ramirez, richie sexson, jim thome,david justice, and lost to boston in the playoffs. ur full of it. and actually the cardinals r the 06 world champions. the 07 world champions r yet to be dtermines duhh. just because their last years world champions, not this years. haha and u think im 11?? ha how old r u like 20 or somethin likin them for 10 years (which is bs). wow
The first sign that you lost this argument already appeared in your first sentence: If you use several "Haha's" in a row, that shows that you know you lost, and you can't do anything besides laugh. Wow, how cool (NOT). Terrible argument once again, but hey, you're only 11.

Did I ever say the Cardinals were the 2007 champs? No. I said they won it last year (which was 2006). HOWEVER, they are still the champs since someone else has yet to win the title from them. Everyone knows that -- "Duhh". You proved my point -- since the 2007 champs have yet to be determined, the CHAMPS for now are the people who won it last year. That's the Cardinals. We are better than the Tribe.

Yes, you sound 11 and I bet you are. I'm 15, so I have been following the Cards for 10 years. You don't know anything. YOU are full of B.S. and that's obvious.

[Chief Wahoo]

The first sign that you lost this argument already appeared in your first sentence: If you use several "Haha's" in a row, that shows that you know you lost, and you can't do anything besides laugh. Wow, how cool (NOT). Terrible argument once again, but hey, you're only 11.

Did I ever say the Cardinals were the 2007 champs? No. I said they won it last year (which was 2006). HOWEVER, they are still the champs since someone else has yet to win the title from them. Everyone knows that -- "Duhh". You proved my point -- since the 2007 champs have yet to be determined, the CHAMPS for now are the people who won it last year. That's the Cardinals. We are better than the Tribe.

Yes, you sound 11 and I bet you are. I'm 15, so I have been following the Cards for 10 years. You don't know anything. YOU are full of B.S. and that's obvious.

Uh huh. Yea no they r not this years champions, they r last years champions. I c ur point that no 1 else has won it yet, but that means that spot is vacant. And no im not 11, im 15 too. And yes i do follow baseball and no what im talkin about. And i never said that pujols was bad, i said he started off bad, theres a difference. And i dont care how bad the tribe did ny other years because its not about last year, 2 years ago, 3 years ago, and so on, its about this year, THIS YEAR IS ALL THAT MATTERS. and as of this year, the tribe has a better record, so yea.

[MizzouFan0306]

Uh huh. Yea no they r not this years champions, they r last years champions. I c ur point that no 1 else has won it yet, but that means that spot is vacant. And no im not 11, im 15 too. And yes i do follow baseball and no what im talkin about. And i never said that pujols was bad, i said he started off bad, theres a difference. And i dont care how bad the tribe did ny other years because its not about last year, 2 years ago, 3 years ago, and so on, its about this year, THIS YEAR IS ALL THAT MATTERS. and as of this year, the tribe has a better record, so yea.
I never said they were this year's champs.
I've said over and over that they are last year's champs. Learn how to read. But until somebody else wins the WS, we are the champs. I said something completely different than what you think.

You're not 15, you're 11. If I wouldn't have said I'm 15, then you wouldn't have either. You were just gonna say whatever I said. I can tell that you're not 15 because of your grammar and spelling. You type like an 11 year old.

The past years matter too. If they don't have a good history, then it means they aren't a good franchise, and that's the case when it comes to the Indians. But you're trying to cover it up. The Tribe aren't better this year. They have a slightly better record, but they've also played less games, and you can't judge who's better after 15-20 games. Wait until the middle of the season. Overall, the Cards are better because we have a much better team. That's a fact.

[Chief Wahoo]

Yeah actually im 15, im a freshman at CHS and i jus tturned it last november. You can believe whatever you want, but I know the truth. And if you want me to spell everything correctly, then fine. I just felt like abbreviating the words so it would not take as long to type, because I have things to do (unlike some people.) And actually a team can rise out of no where because the Mets were in the playoffs last year and were terrible the years before. So the Tribe can pull it off this year. And FYI man you are taking this way to seriously, I mean geez it's just a dumb internet game forum. And I know how to read, thanks.

[Poisenman101]

MizzouFan......Chief is 15!! We have been CP buddies for about a year and KNOW him man...I KNOW him. He's a died in the wool (look THAT up!!) Tribe fan and has been forever.
You said the Cards are off to a rough start...they are!! And the playoffs are attained by the team that plays the best all season.....SEASON....it's not just the play offs that count....because you have to play well all season to get in the playoffs. And it is a fact that the tribe has a better record NOW. I do have a dog in this fight because you are insulting a guy who follows baseball and other sports the way I wish I had time for....so stop with all that arrogant nonsense. The dude is right!!

[Chief Wahoo]

MizzouFan......Chief is 15!! We have been CP buddies for about a year and KNOW him man...I KNOW him. He's a died in the wool (look THAT up!!) Tribe fan and has been forever.
You said the Cards are off to a rough start...they are!! And the playoffs are attained by the team that plays the best all season.....SEASON....it's not just the play offs that count....because you have to play well all season to get in the playoffs. And it is a fact that the tribe has a better record NOW. I do have a dog in this fight because you are insulting a guy who follows baseball and other sports the way I wish I had time for....so stop with all that arrogant nonsense. The dude is right!!

Thank you poisenman. See poisenman knows whats up. Mizzoufan, I know what i'm talking about and I got my dawg here to back me up. You lose, I win, it's over. As of right now, the Tribe is the better team.

[MizzouFan0306]

Yeah actually im 15, im a freshman at CHS and i jus tturned it last november. You can believe whatever you want, but I know the truth. And if you want me to spell everything correctly, then fine. I just felt like abbreviating the words so it would not take as long to type, because I have things to do (unlike some people.) And actually a team can rise out of no where because the Mets were in the playoffs last year and were terrible the years before. So the Tribe can pull it off this year. And FYI man you are taking this way to seriously, I mean geez it's just a dumb internet game forum. And I know how to read, thanks.
I'm taking it too seriously? How, because I won the argument? Whatever man. I like to debate. That's all.

MizzouFan......Chief is 15!! We have been CP buddies for about a year and KNOW him man...I KNOW him. He's a died in the wool (look THAT up!!) Tribe fan and has been forever.
You said the Cards are off to a rough start...they are!! And the playoffs are attained by the team that plays the best all season.....SEASON....it's not just the play offs that count....because you have to play well all season to get in the playoffs. And it is a fact that the tribe has a better record NOW. I do have a dog in this fight because you are insulting a guy who follows baseball and other sports the way I wish I had time for....so stop with all that arrogant nonsense. The dude is right!!
I know you have to play well in the season, idiot. I've been saying that all along. But there are 162 games in the season, not 20. The first 20 games don't mean diddly, and if you don't agree with that, then you don't know anything about baseball.

They have a better record now, but that doesn't matter. It only matters in the playoffs.

Arrogant nonsense, haha. The dude is wrong. I know they have a better record, but they aren't the better team. Cards are better, and the first 20 games don't mean anything. I'm right.

Thank you poisenman. See poisenman knows whats up. Mizzoufan, I know what i'm talking about and I got my dawg here to back me up. You lose, I win, it's over. As of right now, the Tribe is the better team.
Your dawg? Haha, Poisenman is just as dumb.

I know baseball too, and I bet I know more than anyone on this forum. I would smoke you in any argument (like right now) or sports trivia.

I win, you lose. I smoked you in this argument because you don't know anything. I know the Tribe has a better record, but the Cards are the better team. That's all I'm saying, but you obviously can't READ.

I win, you lose. Case closed. I'm right.

[Chief Wahoo]

Actually no dude. Just because you keep sayin that you are right and that the Cards are the better team doesn't make it true. The Cards were the better team last year, no question. But this year the Indians are better so far. And if the Cards were doing better for the first 2o games, you would be saying that the first 20 games do matter, you are only sayin they dont matter because your team sucked during them. And no you didnt win because the Tribe is first in their division while the cardinals are 4th. Being 4 games under 500, the Cards are clearly not the better team.

[MizzouFan0306]

Actually no dude. Just because you keep sayin that you are right and that the Cards are the better team doesn't make it true.
Ha! What a freaking hypocrite. You are over there doing the same thing saying how you're right and how the Indians are better. If you don't want me to do it, then you stop doing it too. Moron. Your opinion is not right. You don't know anything.

The Cards were the better team last year, no question. But this year the Indians are better so far. And if the Cards were doing better for the first 2o games, you would be saying that the first 20 games do matter, you are only sayin they dont matter because your team sucked during them. And no you didnt win because the Tribe is first in their division while the cardinals are 4th. Being 4 games under 500, the Cards are clearly not the better team.
Key words there: SO FAR. They won't be better after a few games.

No, even IF the Cards were doing good, I wouldn't start bragging about it, because I know that they really don't matter. NO, I'm not just mad, and my team doesn't "suck". I bet we would own the Indians if we played you guys.

And yes, the Cards are the better team. We're off to a rough start, yeah, but we'll see how we're doing in the middle of the season. I bet we'll be in first place. I'd say the Cards are better. The Indians aren't consistent at all. That's a FACT.

[Chief Wahoo]

Ha! What a freaking hypocrite. You are over there doing the same thing saying how you're right and how the Indians are better. If you don't want me to do it, then you stop doing it too. Moron. Your opinion is not right. You don't know anything.


Key words there: SO FAR. They won't be better after a few games.

No, even IF the Cards were doing good, I wouldn't start bragging about it, because I know that they really don't matter. NO, I'm not just mad, and my team doesn't "suck". I bet we would own the Indians if we played you guys.

And yes, the Cards are the better team. We're off to a rough start, yeah, but we'll see how we're doing in the middle of the season. I bet we'll be in first place. I'd say the Cards are better. The Indians aren't consistent at all. That's a FACT.

Hypocrite? Sorry i dont think so. I got the stats on my side because a 10-7 first place team is better than a 8-11 5th place team. Thats not an opinion, thats a fact. And plus the Indians are a young team, and are doing good this year so far, in a couple years they will be completely dominant. And yea you can't brag about this year because theres nothing to brag about, so all you bring up is that the Cards won the World Series last year. And if the Indians played the Cards you definetely wouldn't own us

[MizzouFan0306]

Hypocrite? Sorry i dont think so. I got the stats on my side because a 10-7 first place team is better than a 8-11 5th place team. Thats not an opinion, thats a fact. And plus the Indians are a young team, and are doing good this year so far, in a couple years they will be completely dominant. And yea you can't brag about this year because theres nothing to brag about, so all you bring up is that the Cards won the World Series last year. And if the Indians played the Cards you definetely wouldn't own us
The Cardinals are 10-11, and they're in 3rd place. Get your facts straight.

The Tribe have the better RECORD at the moment, but if you look up and down both teams roster, the Cards have the better overall team. Just look at all that we've done. We're still a powerhouse in the National League. The Indians can't say the same in the AL.

So I got the FACTS on my side.

The Indians may have some good young players, but so do we. We got the best hitter in the game (Albert Pujols), and he's young. I CAN bring up the fact that we won the World Series last year, because that's a major thing that we did. If the Indians won, you would be bragging also. Once again, HYPOCRITE. You're such a moron, it's amazing. You're just jealous that you didnt win the WS last year. We are a much better franchise, and we do more damage than Cleveland EVERY YEAR. Face the facts. You're just mad. Haha!

And yeah, if we played the Indians, we would own you guys. You don't want me to brad about the World Series, so why are you bragging about the first 20 games, which don't even matter? Exactly. HYPOCRITE. If you don't want me to, then you can't either. Moron.

I just owned you. I win.

[Chief Wahoo]

The Cardinals are 10-11, and they're in 3rd place. Get your facts straight.

The Tribe have the better RECORD at the moment, but if you look up and down both teams roster, the Cards have the better overall team. Just look at all that we've done. We're still a powerhouse in the National League. The Indians can't say the same in the AL.

So I got the FACTS on my side.

The Indians may have some good young players, but so do we. We got the best hitter in the game (Albert Pujols), and he's young. I CAN bring up the fact that we won the World Series last year, because that's a major thing that we did. If the Indians won, you would be bragging also. Once again, HYPOCRITE. You're such a moron, it's amazing. You're just jealous that you didnt win the WS last year. We are a much better franchise, and we do more damage than Cleveland EVERY YEAR. Face the facts. You're just mad. Haha!

And yeah, if we played the Indians, we would own you guys. You don't want me to brad about the World Series, so why are you bragging about the first 20 games, which don't even matter? Exactly. HYPOCRITE. If you don't want me to, then you can't either. Moron.

I just owned you. I win.

Actually moron when i posted those stats the Cards were in 5th place. And yea the so called greatest hitter in the game has an amazing .247 average omg amazing. I know he is probably the best, but he isnt proving it so far. And i think its hilarious that you call me a hyprocrite when you are doing the same exact thing. "Your such a moron, its amazing." And the tribe won again tonight giving them a 5 game winning streak. O yeah i guess thats why their so inconsistent right? Yeah i just owned you. Dont bring that trash in here anymore. And btw i am bragging about the first 20 games because that is the only thing that matters this season!!! Yeah its nice that the Cards won the world series last year, but it doesnt matter at all concerning this season! Man stop living in the past! So what if the cards dont win the World Series this year are you gonna brag that they won 2 years ago?? you cant live off that 1 world series win

[A.K.A. Nacho Lad]

I don't LOVE the Indians but I will say that they are a good team.

[MizzouFan0306]

Actually moron when i posted those stats the Cards were in 5th place. And yea the so called greatest hitter in the game has an amazing .247 average omg amazing. I know he is probably the best, but he isnt proving it so far. And i think its hilarious that you call me a hyprocrite when you are doing the same exact thing. "Your such a moron, its amazing." And the tribe won again tonight giving them a 5 game winning streak. O yeah i guess thats why their so inconsistent right? Yeah i just owned you. Dont bring that trash in here anymore. And btw i am bragging about the first 20 games because that is the only thing that matters this season!!! Yeah its nice that the Cards won the world series last year, but it doesnt matter at all concerning this season! Man stop living in the past! So what if the cards dont win the World Series this year are you gonna brag that they won 2 years ago?? you cant live off that 1 world series win
You are a moron...

Albert Pujols is the best hitter in the league. He's off to a slow start, but so is Ryan Howard (the MVP last season), Derek Lee, and Manny Ramirez. It happens. This is the first time Pujols has been in a slump his whole career, so I'm not going to worry. He will heat up soon and show that he is the best hitter in the game.

The Indians aren't even hitting any better than us. You only have two players hitting over .300, so you have no room to talk about batting averages. You think Hafner is so great, but he has pretty similar stats to Pujols this year, so Hafner isn't exactly off to an awesome start either. Yeha, the Indians are SO good (NOT). Give me a break.

I think it's funny how you think I'M the hypocrite when YOU are doing the same thing. So what the heck are you talking about?

You think you owned me? Haha! When's the last time they made the playoffs? When's the last time they won the world series, or even came close to it? Answer that. THAT'S why they are so inconsistent. You think they're consistent and they can't even make the playoffs two years in a row. Wow. I just owned you AGAIN.

The first 20 games are the only thing that matters this year? Wow, you know nothing about baseball. The first 20 games don't mean anything, but since the Indians have such a bad history, and they always suck, you have nothing better to brag about. Their first 20 games is the only time that their fans get to see them win, because once the Playoffs start to get close, they choke and they start to suck like always. The world series win is important, not the first 20 games. If you don't agree with that then you know nothing. And by the way, the Cards have won the 2nd most world series' out of any team in the history of the league. THAT'S consistent. The Indians AREN'T. See, I have something to brag about. You don't. We are the better team. OWNED.

[Vital Viper]

Try to stop the name calling but seeing the long discusion is nice.

:vitalviper:

-Vital Viper

[Chief Wahoo]

You are a moron...

Albert Pujols is the best hitter in the league. He's off to a slow start, but so is Ryan Howard (the MVP last season), Derek Lee, and Manny Ramirez. It happens. This is the first time Pujols has been in a slump his whole career, so I'm not going to worry. He will heat up soon and show that he is the best hitter in the game.

The Indians aren't even hitting any better than us. You only have two players hitting over .300, so you have no room to talk about batting averages. You think Hafner is so great, but he has pretty similar stats to Pujols this year, so Hafner isn't exactly off to an awesome start either. Yeha, the Indians are SO good (NOT). Give me a break.

I think it's funny how you think I'M the hypocrite when YOU are doing the same thing. So what the heck are you talking about?

You think you owned me? Haha! When's the last time they made the playoffs? When's the last time they won the world series, or even came close to it? Answer that. THAT'S why they are so inconsistent. You think they're consistent and they can't even make the playoffs two years in a row. Wow. I just owned you AGAIN.

The first 20 games are the only thing that matters this year? Wow, you know nothing about baseball. The first 20 games don't mean anything, but since the Indians have such a bad history, and they always suck, you have nothing better to brag about. Their first 20 games is the only time that their fans get to see them win, because once the Playoffs start to get close, they choke and they start to suck like always. The world series win is important, not the first 20 games. If you don't agree with that then you know nothing. And by the way, the Cards have won the 2nd most world series' out of any team in the history of the league. THAT'S consistent. The Indians AREN'T. See, I have something to brag about. You don't. We are the better team. OWNED.

Wow, how many times must i repeat this. I dont care if the Indians havnt made the playoffs in the last 2, 3, 4 ,5 years! It doesnt give them any advantage this season by making the playoffs a couple years ago. I dont care about their past, I ony care about this season! You only bring up past seasons because your team has nothing on the Indiians this season. And as a I stated at least twice, I said Pujols is probably the best hitter, just not doing goood so far. For like the 8th time, I never said he was bad! And actually you were the one who started by calling me a hypocrite, so I just called you one to get even, you started that. And actually Hafner has a .357 (almost 1.00 higher than Pujols) average with 5 homeruns, and i think thats pretty good as do any baseball fan who knows what their talking about. And no you didnt own me at all in your last statement because you just repeated something you had said like 5 times already. And talking about consitency, the Tribe has won their last 5 games, which is pretty consistent if you ask me

[MizzouFan0306]

Wow, how many times must i repeat this. I dont care if the Indians havnt made the playoffs in the last 2, 3, 4 ,5 years! It doesnt give them any advantage this season by making the playoffs a couple years ago. I dont care about their past, I ony care about this season! You only bring up past seasons because your team has nothing on the Indiians this season. And as a I stated at least twice, I said Pujols is probably the best hitter, just not doing goood so far. For like the 8th time, I never said he was bad! And actually you were the one who started by calling me a hypocrite, so I just called you one to get even, you started that. And actually Hafner has a .357 (almost 1.00 higher than Pujols) average with 5 homeruns, and i think thats pretty good as do any baseball fan who knows what their talking about. And no you didnt own me at all in your last statement because you just repeated something you had said like 5 times already. And talking about consitency, the Tribe has won their last 5 games, which is pretty consistent if you ask me
Ok, if you want me to stop talking about the past seasons, stop bragging about the first 20 games. They don't matter at all. Actually, we have a lot on the Indians. We are a much better team, we are consistent, and our franchise has been so much better. The Indians don't have anything on the Cards. Have you beaten us in anything? Don't think so. Have you ever made any big accomplishments? Don't think so,

I know Hafner has 5 home runs - so does Pujols. Hafner has 16 RBI's and Pujols has 15. Like I said, pretty similar stats. I know Hafner has a good average, but he's the only hitter on the Indians with a BA over .300. The other player has only played in 4 games, so that doesn't really count since he's only had a few at-bats. Also, I know you didn't call Pujols "bad", but at the beginning you were laughing at him saying that he wasn't the best player in the league. That's all I'm saying, and that's what I was debating about.

I have owned you a few times, and I've said a lot of different things. You're the one saying the same thing. The last 5 games isn't CONSISTENT. It's consistent for a very short period, but I'm talking like a streak of making the playoffs. Or if you want to talk about WINNING streaks, then I consider AT LEAST 10-20 consistent. Not 5. Just for the record, the Cardinals had a 5-game winning streak as well this season, but when I say their consistent, I mean that they always make the playoffs and they always do well. The Indians are good this season, but they can't say the same.

[Poisenman101]

Try to stop the name calling but seeing the long discusion is nice.

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-Vital Viper


Nice try.:D I get that passionate about the Packers. Chief knows his stuff...dunno about Mizzou. ALWAYS wanna have Chief in my corner...he rocks!!

[MizzouFan0306]

Nice try.:D I get that passionate about the Packers. Chief knows his stuff...dunno about Mizzou. ALWAYS wanna have Chief in my corner...he rocks!!
I know my stuff too. I know a lot about sports, and I don't mean to brag, but I probably know the most on this whole forum.

Chief hasn't impressed me with his sports knowledge. I would choose me.

[Chief Wahoo]

I know my stuff too. I know a lot about sports, and I don't mean to brag, but I probably know the most on this whole forum.

Chief hasn't impressed me with his sports knowledge. I would choose me.

Thx for the support Poisen. And Mizzou, obviosuly you would choose yourself. You may know alot about the entire league, but i know everything there is to know about the Indians, and I know the stats so far this season. The Cardinals do have very similar stats to the Tribe so far, but the Tribe is an up and coming team and will only get better, which goes along with the Cards 2. But see,Mizzou is arguing that the Tribe is like the most god awful team in the league, which is definetely not true. Im not sayin that the Cards are bad by any means, but Im saying now that the Tribe are definetely keeping up with them, and doing a little better so far. And with their 6th win in a row tonight, they are on a roll.

[MizzouFan0306]

Thx for the support Poisen. And Mizzou, obviosuly you would choose yourself. You may know alot about the entire league, but i know everything there is to know about the Indians, and I know the stats so far this season. The Cardinals do have very similar stats to the Tribe so far, but the Tribe is an up and coming team and will only get better, which goes along with the Cards 2. But see,Mizzou is arguing that the Tribe is like the most god awful team in the league, which is definetely not true. Im not sayin that the Cards are bad by any means, but Im saying now that the Tribe are definetely keeping up with them, and doing a little better so far. And with their 6th win in a row tonight, they are on a roll.
I know the Indians are good. I never said they are god awful. They are a good team, but don't get too excited about the first 20 games. You're acting like they just won the world series 10 times in a row. That's all.

And I know their stats too. I may not be a fan of them, but I know a lot about baseball.

Both of our teams are good. You usually start better, but we usually finish good. I would like to finish better than have a good start, I don't know about you. That's all I'm saying.

Congrats to the Indians for their 6th win in a row. I'm not trying to rip on them, just having a little debate.

[Chief Wahoo]

Ok man its all good. Im just excited because the Indians havnt made the playoffs in a couple years and they are starting off really strong this year. I knwo they might not finish strong, im just glad they got a good start. And i dont got anything against the Cardinals either, just like you said, just debating. And i actually like Pujols because hes on my fantasy team, so im just hoping he finishes off the way he did last year.

[MizzouFan0306]

Ok man its all good. Im just excited because the Indians havnt made the playoffs in a couple years and they are starting off really strong this year. I knwo they might not finish strong, im just glad they got a good start. And i dont got anything against the Cardinals either, just like you said, just debating. And i actually like Pujols because hes on my fantasy team, so im just hoping he finishes off the way he did last year.
Yeah, I understand that. It's always exciting when your team is doing really good after not making the playoffs the season before, so you should be excited. The Indians are a good team, so I wish them luck.

So I'm glad we finally agree. Let's hope both of our teams are in the Playoffs this year. It's all good now.

[Chief Wahoo]

Allright man its all good. I wish the Cards luck and hope they make it to the plsyoffs. And the Indians won again today! Wooo! They just have to keep this pace up all year, not just the beginning.

[Vital Viper]

I know my stuff too. I know a lot about sports, and I don't mean to brag, but I probably know the most on this whole forum.

Chief hasn't impressed me with his sports knowledge. I would choose me.

I remind you I'm the sports mod for a reason. Don't Ever talk bad about the Cowboys, lol.

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-Vital Viper

[Poisenman101]

I remind you I'm the sports mod for a reason. Don't Ever talk bad about the Cowboys, lol.

:vitalviper:

-Vital Viper

O man...not the Cryboys:P My Pack thinks they stink!! Oops...But you ROCK V V:D
Nice to see that Chief and Mizzou are on smoother ground now...

[Chief Wahoo]

Lol yea. I dont really care much for the Cowboys. GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But i kinda like them because they got Bledsoe who was a Bill. Nyway the Bills are going to totally win the super bowl this year.

[Chief Wahoo]

Well the Indians are still doing mad good. 1st in the Central Division! Wooooo. And Hafner makin that diving catch to beat the Reds on yesterday was phenominal! This is gonna be their year! But the Cards r not startin out too hot.. but they (Along with Pujols) will probably finish off strong. GO TRIBE GO!

[Mr Sir Jorge]

Dont blab about those creepy people. there like detroit last year. They give everything at the begining and then take a nap of exaustion when you least/most expect it and then the Twins will come running out of the allstar break and pass them by storm... You Tribe fans and players have a looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong offseason in front of you. You might be able to pick up some good players

[Luigi Rocks6]

I would be and sort of am but im a tigers fan

Also i despise the cardinals cuz im also a cubs fan

also the cards havnt done a single thing this year

[MizzouFan0306]

I would be and sort of am but im a tigers fan

Also i despise the cardinals cuz im also a cubs fan

also the cards havnt done a single thing this year
It's just too bad that your precious Cubs are doing even WORSE than us. The Cards are in 2nd place, so if WE aren't doing a single then, then the Cubs must really SUCK. And they do.

The Cubs have the worst orginization in baseball. Bar none. They are a junkyard. They spend money on all of these players and they are still a mess.

No wonder you hate us. We own you in everything.

When's the last time you won a world series? 1908? OUCH. Almost been 100 years ... well, if it makes you feel any better, the Cards have won 10 championships, including one LAST YEAR! Have a nice day, buddy.

[Donnybrook]

Okay lets get this straight. I am a huge Yankees fan. I know you guys will give me heck because they are doing poorly right now but they will come around like always. By the way Mizzou, if you consider Encarnacion a good player, your team sucks no offence. Pujols, Rolen, Edmonds, and Carpenter are your team.

[MizzouFan0306]

Okay lets get this straight. I am a huge Yankees fan. I know you guys will give me heck because they are doing poorly right now but they will come around like always. By the way Mizzou, if you consider Encarnacion a good player, your team sucks no offence. Pujols, Rolen, Edmonds, and Carpenter are your team.
Did I ever say Encarnacion was real good? No, but he's a decent player. I KNOW our good players are Pujols, Edmonds, Rolen, and Carpenter, ok? You don't need to tell me that.

The Yankees team is just A-Rod, and maybe Jeter.

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[Donnybrook]

Did I ever say Encarnacion was real good? No, but he's a decent player. I KNOW our good players are Pujols, Edmonds, Rolen, and Carpenter, ok? You don't need to tell me that.

The Yankees team is just A-Rod, and maybe Jeter.

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Are you kidding me? Jeter is better than A-Rod for one. For two, have you ever heard of Wang, Petitte, Clemens, Rivera, Posada, Abreu, Matsui, Giambi, and Cano. All those guys are perennial all-stars. 2 words.... 26 championships.;)

[MizzouFan0306]

Are you kidding me? Jeter is better than A-Rod for one. For two, have you ever heard of Wang, Petitte, Clemens, Rivera, Posada, Abreu, Matsui, Giambi, and Cano. All those guys are perennial all-stars. 2 words.... 26 championships.;)
There are many things wrong about your post...

1.) You mentioned all of those guys, but let's actually go through them and talk: A-Rod is A LOT better than Jeter, and RIGHT NOW, those are your only two players. Wang has done nothing, Petitte is old and washed up, Clemens is injured and he's in the freaking MINORS, so why are you including him? Rivera is USELESS if you guys aren't winning because he's a closer, and that's the case this year, Posada isn't hitting, Matsui isn't hitting and he's injury proned, Cano doesn't have great power, and Giambi is just overrated. Your team is not doing good right now, and A-Rod is the only one producing.

2.) I don't care about "26 champiosnhips" because it's too bad that I'm talking about THIS YEAR! And THIS YEAR, you guys are at the bottom of the standings! Two words ... 4th PLACE! Haha.

[Donnybrook]

There are many things wrong about your post...

1.) You mentioned all of those guys, but let's actually go through them and talk: A-Rod is A LOT better than Jeter, and RIGHT NOW, those are your only two players. Wang has done nothing, Petitte is old and washed up, Clemens is injured and he's in the freaking MINORS, so why are you including him? Rivera is USELESS if you guys aren't winning because he's a closer, and that's the case this year, Posada isn't hitting, Matsui isn't hitting and he's injury proned, Cano doesn't have great power, and Giambi is just overrated. Your team is not doing good right now, and A-Rod is the only one producing.

2.) I don't care about "26 champiosnhips" because it's too bad that I'm talking about THIS YEAR! And THIS YEAR, you guys are at the bottom of the standings! Two words ... 4th PLACE! Haha.

Im sorry to be mean but you obviously know nothing about baseball. Posada isn't hitting? He is leading the MLB in batting average. Pettitte is washed up? His ERA is under 3. Wang hasnt done anything because he has been injured. And Clemens is in the minors doing a rehab stint because he hasnt pitched in a year. Next time you try to talk to me about baseball please do your research.

[MizzouFan0306]

Im sorry to be mean but you obviously know nothing about baseball. Posada isn't hitting? He is leading the MLB in batting average. Pettitte is washed up? His ERA is under 3. Wang hasnt done anything because he has been injured. And Clemens is in the minors doing a rehab stint because he hasnt pitched in a year. Next time you try to talk to me about baseball please do your research.
I'm not trying to be mean either, but I bet I know a heck of a lot more about baseball than you do. I've been following sports my whole life, and I'd say I'm probably one of the most knowledgable sports fans on here. YOU have no idea what you're talking about.

Posado may be having an alright year, but it's not enough to make his team win. Petitte has an ERA around 3, but his record is 3-4! He IS washed up, and he's NOT the pitcher us used to be.

And IS that NOT what I said about Wang and Clemens? Wang is injury proned, and I know he's injured right now, but when he was pitching his ERA was between 4 and 5 and his record is 4-4. That's not great!

And I'M the one that said Clemens is in the minors, AND he's HURT. YOU are the ONE that brought him up, you idiot. And I asked "why did you even bring him up?" BECAUSE I know that he's in the MINORS AND HE'S INJURED. YOU didn't know that obviously.

So next time YOU need to get YOUR facts straight before you try to talk baseball. You don't know CRUD about baseball, and you don't even know your favorite team. Get your facts straight next time, because it's useless arguing with you! Do some research for once.

[KingKitty]

No, but my seventh grade English teacher was a real big fan.

[yungboii]

im all cardnails baby my fav team since i was 2

[Donnybrook]

I'm not trying to be mean either, but I bet I know a heck of a lot more about baseball than you do. I've been following sports my whole life, and I'd say I'm probably one of the most knowledgable sports fans on here. YOU have no idea what you're talking about.

Posado may be having an alright year, but it's not enough to make his team win. Petitte has an ERA around 3, but his record is 3-4! He IS washed up, and he's NOT the pitcher us used to be.

And IS that NOT what I said about Wang and Clemens? Wang is injury proned, and I know he's injured right now, but when he was pitching his ERA was between 4 and 5 and his record is 4-4. That's not great!

And I'M the one that said Clemens is in the minors, AND he's HURT. YOU are the ONE that brought him up, you idiot. And I asked "why did you even bring him up?" BECAUSE I know that he's in the MINORS AND HE'S INJURED. YOU didn't know that obviously.

So next time YOU need to get YOUR facts straight before you try to talk baseball. You don't know CRUD about baseball, and you don't even know your favorite team. Get your facts straight next time, because it's useless arguing with you! Do some research for once.

So now you are agreeing with me? Saying Posada is a bad player and changing it to he is having an all right year? I can tell by the way you talk you know nothing about the game and are a completely wrong bout me knowing nothing. I guarantee I know more about you in Baseball, Hockey, Football, and Basketball. Want me to prove it? Go to IAAFS chat right now. I ask you a question, you ask me one. First one to get three wrong loses, and has to put in his sig... I.E. Donnybrook knows the most about sports on these forums. Accept? Because I sure do.

[MizzouFan0306]

So now you are agreeing with me? Saying Posada is a bad player and changing it to he is having an all right year? I can tell by the way you talk you know nothing about the game and are a completely wrong bout me knowing nothing. I guarantee I know more about you in Baseball, Hockey, Football, and Basketball. Want me to prove it? Go to IAAFS chat right now. I ask you a question, you ask me one. First one to get three wrong loses, and has to put in his sig... I.E. Donnybrook knows the most about sports on these forums. Accept? Because I sure do.
Where did I say I agreed with you? I'm arguing with you. Can you read? Obviously not.

I GAURANTEE you that I know A LOT MORE than you about ALL SPORTS! That goes for baseball, basketball, football, AND hockey. You don't know ANYTHING. Moron.

So bring it on. I'm already there, but you chickened out and left. Wuss.

I will pwn you because I know a lot more!
You're sig will say "MizzouFan0306 knows the most about sports" for a while!

[Donnybrook]

Where did I say I agreed with you? I'm arguing with you. Can you read? Obviously not.

I GAURANTEE you that I know A LOT MORE than you about ALL SPORTS! That goes for baseball, basketball, football, AND hockey. You don't know ANYTHING. Moron.

So bring it on. I'm already there, but you chickened out and left. Wuss.

I will pwn you because I know a lot more!
You're sig will say "MizzouFan0306 knows the most about sports" for a while!

Im coming right now so get your questions ready.

[Chief Wahoo]

wow im getting to see mizzoufan argue with someone other than me haha. Might i say that the Tribe is still delivering having a 37-24 record and is first place in the AL Central Division. W000000000000. Both the Yankees and Cards are second in their divison... but the Yankees are only 1 game under 500 and have been known to turn a bad season around after a couple games. Now I HATE the Yankees, they are my least favorite team in the MLB.. but they do have experience, and will be able to make the playoffs through the wildcard spot (NO WAY their catching up to the Bo Sox.) But Donny, Mizou knows what hes talkin about as you can see from the argument i had with him. All that I know is gthat the Tribe is doin better than both your teams so far! haha

[Brandon Inge]

I would be and sort of am but im a tigers fan

Also i despise the cardinals cuz im also a cubs fan

also the cards havnt done a single thing this year

Talk about a fair weather fan.


I'm not trying to be mean either, but I bet I know a heck of a lot more about baseball than you do. I've been following sports my whole life, and I'd say I'm probably one of the most knowledgable sports fans on here. YOU have no idea what you're talking about.

Don't go around making claims like that, it makes you sound like a jerk

wow im getting to see mizzoufan argue with someone other than me haha. Might i say that the Tribe is still delivering having a 37-24 record and is first place in the AL Central Division. W000000000000. Both the Yankees and Cards are second in their divison... but the Yankees are only 1 game under 500 and have been known to turn a bad season around after a couple games. Now I HATE the Yankees, they are my least favorite team in the MLB.. but they do have experience, and will be able to make the playoffs through the wildcard spot (NO WAY their catching up to the Bo Sox.) But Donny, Mizou knows what hes talkin about as you can see from the argument i had with him. All that I know is gthat the Tribe is doin better than both your teams so far! haha

Slow down son, Tied for first, with my team, the Detroit Tigers.