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Samwesty999
22 May 2009, 07:00 PM
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Introduction

Welcome to competition/reality-show called ‘The MCCP Apprentice’. If you have seen the British, American or Irish TV show called ‘The Apprentice’, then you should know how to play/compete.


A very quick summary if you are too lazy to read the rest of this post

There will be 3 teams at the start of the competition, who I set a new forum-related task for every few days. From the loosing team, forumers can vote for who they think didn't perform well and should be fired. This will continue every few days until there is a winner.

Please read the rest of this thread if you want to know all the details and exactly how the competition works.


How the competition will be played

Out of all the applications, me and my panel will choose 30 contestants to take part in the competition. I will then split the 30 contestants into 3 teams; one called ‘Team A’, one called 'Team B' and the other called ‘Team C’. Later on in the task when there are less contestants, I will split the contestants into 2 teams.

The competition begins when I choose a task for the groups to carry out. The task could be anything related to the forum.

Example 1: The task might be to set up a signature shop, which includes designing them, making them and issuing them to forumer’s who request them. The team to sell the most signatures would be the winner of that task.

Example 2: Another task might be to create a role-play. Me, my special helpers and a guest expert will then analyze the description, storyline and imagination of each role-play. The role-play which I think is the best will win that task.

For each task, I will choose a project manager who manages the team and has the final say in decisions.


Getting fired

After the task they have carried out is finished, I will then announce (with help from my panel) which team(s) won and which team lost.


Everyone in the loosing team will then have to explain why they shouldn’t be fired and how it wasn’t their fault that the team lost. There will then be a voting poll, in which forumers can vote who should be fired. The number of contestants fired varies from each task, ranging from 8 on the 1st task to 2 on the 5th task.

A new task will be created every 3 or 4 days and a specific number of contestants will be fired on each task, until there is only 1 contestant left, who would then be the winner of the competition. Please don’t feel like it is something personal if you are fired.


Switching around the teams

On each task, I might switch the teams round a bit, so that I can see how different contestants get on together and so that is doesn’t get boring.


Team communication

There will be 3 threads created for each team to discuss ideas, to arrange their task and to set it up. A xat may make things more complicated, so one won't be needed for the time being.


Time limit and how long the competition will take

For each task, I will allow up to 3 or 4 days until it finishes and a team wins. As long as each task takes 3 or 4 days, my estimate is that the competition will be finished in less than a month - it definitely won’t exceed over one month.


The Panel and Guest experts

I will be choosing 4 forumers to help me in what would be known as 'The Panel'. Please don’t ask or apply to be in the panel because I will contact you if I want you to be one. Basically the panel assist me in choosing candidates, setting tasks, reporting back to me/everyone else and choosing which task won.

For specific tasks, I may take on board 1 or 2 guest experts to help choose a winning team (see example somewhere above) e.g. If the role-play creating task becomes one, then I will ask for advice from an expert role-player.


Fairness

This competition will be as fair as possible. When I select the 30 contestants that I want to compete, me and my panel won’t just be choosing those that are ‘well known’. Although I want some well known forumers to compete in order to make it interesting, I will also be closely looking at the applications and choosing from there.


The prize

I haven’t chosen a prize for the winner yet, but I will try to make it as good as I can. I could be a signature/avatar that I get someone to make, or maybe even to get an infraction/warning reversed if Dracophile gives permission. There is one prize I can guarantee you will receive; the privilege to have won.


Application form

Why do you think you should be chosen:

What skills on this forum do you have (e.g. role-playing, art, poetry, making successful threads etc):

Do you think you could win and why:

Do you think you are good working in a team:

Rate your activity on the forum out of 10:


Why I think this competition would be a good idea

It offers a huge variety as all tasks will be completely different. Each task focus' on a specific part of the forum, which will be different every few days. This means that a wide range of forum areas and aspects could be included e.g. role-plays, artwork, avvy shops, clubs, parties, newspapers, stories, making youtube videos, GFX teams, penguin art, sig shops, poems/songs and creating specific threads. This would make it less boring and some real good work could be produced by the teams who carry out the tasks, showing the attributes of all the contestants. I feel this competition will bring lots of forumer's talent and skills together, creating a huge amount of variety. Hopefully, this competition will bring certain forum areas/aspects back to life e.g. GFX teams and newspapers. Obviously, tasks won't be just based on the things I mentioned in this paragraph - there will hopefully be lots more.


How everyone takes part


Me who runs the competition
4 people in the panel who help make decisions
Guest experts who I may hire for particular tasks to help make decisions
30 contestants who take part in winning the competition
Everyone else will be able to vote on who they think should be fired




The month-plan of the competition

Look here to see how many people will be fired on each task and how long each task will take.


Application process

1st Forumers can start submitting their applications

2nd This will be the last day of applications being submitted


Task 1

3rd The contestants will be chosen - The 30 contestants will be split into 3 groups – They can begin working on their task/assignment

4th They can work on their task/assignment

5th They can work on their task/assignment

6th They must hand in their task/assignment – The loosing team will be announced - 8 people from the losing team will be fired


Task 2

7th The 22 remaining contestants will be split into 3 fairly even groups - A new task will be set - They can begin working on their task/assignment

8th They can work on their task/assignment

9th They can work on their task/assignment

10th They must hand in their task/assignment – The losing team will be announced - 5 people from the losing team will be fired


Task 3

11th The 17 remaining contestants will be split into 2 fairly even groups - A new task will be set - They can begin working on their task/assignment

12th They can work on their task/assignment

13th They can work on their task/assignment

14th They must hand in their task/assignment – The losing team will be announced - 6 people from the losing team will be fired


Task 4

15th The 11 remaining contestants will be split into 2 fairly even groups - A new task will be set - They can begin working on their task/assignment

16th They can work on their task/assignment

17th They can work on their task/assignment

18th They must hand in their task/assignment – The loosing team will be announced - 3 people from the losing team will be fired


Task 5

19th The 8 remaining contestants will be split into 2 even groups - A new task will be set - They can begin working on their task/assignment

20th They can work on their task/assignment

21st They must hand in their task/assignment – The losing team will be announced - 2 people from the losing team will be fired


Task 6

22nd The 6 remaining contestants will be split into 2 even groups - A new task will be set - They can begin working on their task/assignment

23rd They can work on their task/assignment

24th They must hand in their task/assignment – The losing team will be announced - 2 people from the losing team will be fired


Task 7

25th 4 contestants will be left - They will then work individually and not in teams - A new task will be set - They can begin working on their task/assignment

26th They can work on their task/assignment

27th They must hand in their task/assignment - The 3 losing contests will be announced and fired


Task 8

28th The 2 individual contests will be given a new task/assignment - They can begin working on their task/assignment

29th They must hand in their task/assignment

30th The winner of the competition will be announced


Note: When contestants hand their tasks/assignment in or finish them, it must be by a specific time deadline.

This deadline will be:
4:00pmPST
5:00pmMST
6:00pmCST
7:00pmEST
12:00amGMT

If you live in a different time zone, then hopefully you can work yours out by looking at the times above.

I feel these time zones are the best for this competition. Most forumers live in these time zones and should be able to get their tasks/assignments finished by then. This deadline doesn’t mean that everyone in the team has to be up until that time, it just means that the task/assignment should be handed in by then. The earlier you hand it in or finish it, the better.

If your tasks/assignments aren’t finished or handed in by this deadline, then it is very likely you will be the losing team, unless another team hasn’t finished/handed-in theirs either.

Steve Green
22 May 2009, 08:52 PM
This is a very good idea. But it sorta falls in the idea for a gameshow. But I love this idea, very well thought out.

kogeck
22 May 2009, 09:03 PM
I agree with Steve. You've done an excellent job organizing and thinking this through, however it seems too much of a hassle to be moving around in Xats and competing in day slots, etc.

Samwesty999
22 May 2009, 09:10 PM
This is a very good idea. But it sorta falls in the idea for a gameshow. But I love this idea, very well thought out.
Thanks Steve, I'm glad you like the idea. I don't think it is really like a gameshow since it doesn't involve questions or solving problems. I'd say it was more of a competition or reality show.

I agree with Steve. You've done an excellent job organizing and thinking this through, however it seems too much of a hassle to be moving around in Xats and competing in day slots, etc.

Hmmm...... Even though there will only be 2 Xats, I can sorta see what you mean. Maybe people in the same team won't be able to catch each other on xat at the same time to discuss things. Instead, maybe a thread could be created in order to discuss things, rather than a xat. I don't think I mentioned day slots though....

Edit: I edited the first post and changed what it said about xat. Thanks for making me realize that a xat may not be the best way of communication Kogeck.

peguin21795
22 May 2009, 11:14 PM
Can I join when its out? :D Btw, nice idea

Why do you think you should be chosen: I work hard :rolleyes:

What skills on this forum do you have (e.g. role-playing, art, poetry, making successful threads etc): Art, successful threads

Do you think you could win and why: I think I could win because I work hard and get everything done

Do you think you are good working in a team: Oh yeah

Rate your activity on the forum out of 10: 7.6786

Samwesty999
23 May 2009, 05:15 PM
I have now updated the thread with a couple more sections. I know a huge amount of text may be off-putting and people may not read all of it, so I have added a section (the 2nd paragraph/heading) which gives a quick summary about the competition.

worldking01
23 May 2009, 05:17 PM
I don't think that you should choose. The forum community as a whole should choose who will be on it.

Lost One
23 May 2009, 05:49 PM
I think that this is a brilliant idea. =]

blingstr
23 May 2009, 08:31 PM
Alot of people use MSN, so that could be used instead of XAT to communicate between the teams. I think this is a good idea but the problem i see is that if i read correctly only 11 people can participate. After each task you could post the losing teams names and people could vote who they think you should fire, and you take that into consideration while you decide who to fire. That would mean more people could join in.

Samwesty999
23 May 2009, 09:03 PM
I don't think that you should choose. The forum community as a whole should choose who will be on it.
Alot of people use MSN, so that could be used instead of XAT to communicate between the teams. I think this is a good idea but the problem i see is that if i read correctly only 11 people can participate. After each task you could post the losing teams names and people could vote who they think you should fire, and you take that into consideration while you decide who to fire. That would mean more people could join in.

Thank you both for your inputs. I found them very useful and they influenced me in changing the game slightly. Instead of me deciding who gets fired, it will be up to the forum and they can vote in a poll. The only power that me and my special helpers will have is to choose who gets selected to compete, what each task will be focused on and which team lost. We will have no power at all over who gets fired. I have also revised some other parts of my first post. Thank you both very much.

P.S. It is 10 contestants.

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Could people re-read the first post because I have made a number of changed that will make this competition better.

blingstr
23 May 2009, 09:11 PM
P.S. It is 10 contestants.
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It's 10 contestants, but you will be participating too by hosting/organizing it.

Samwesty999
24 May 2009, 11:22 AM
It's 10 contestants, but you will be participating too by hosting/organizing it.

I added this to the first post. It shows how every single forumer can play a part.

How everyone takes part


There is me who runs the competition
4 people in the panel who help make decisions
Guest experts who I may hire for particular tasks to help make decisions
30 contestants who take part in winning the competition
Everyone else will be able to vote on who they think should be fired

LOL
24 May 2009, 12:34 PM
Very nice idea, but everyone thinks like they would be chosen. I think there should be a way to include more people. Maybe, holding 2 competitions, but with entirely different tasks? They will be independent, and if you have time, you might make the both winners compete in order to get a winner.

You know, like this:

Main forum(Guide, info, Q&A, etc.)
-Subforum: Contest A
--Subsubforum:Team 1-A
--Subsubforum:Team 2-A
-Subfrom:Contest B
--Subsubforum:Team 1-B
--Subsubforum:Team 2-B

Like this.

Also, some ideas: Find a meme, make most event-log worthy events, rickroll the most amount of people(memememe), get most views in any thread(thread should be made after the task is given), count to ### first*.

*A new idea: You can have an extra sub forum, and you can have the contest threads here, like count to ## first with the help of only your team members. Or other stuff like get the most non-team member people to post in your thread, I don't know.

Samwesty999
24 May 2009, 06:25 PM
Very nice idea, but everyone thinks like they would be chosen. I think there should be a way to include more people. Maybe, holding 2 competitions, but with entirely different tasks? They will be independent, and if you have time, you might make the both winners compete in order to get a winner.

You know, like this:

Main forum(Guide, info, Q&A, etc.)
-Subforum: Contest A
--Subsubforum:Team 1-A
--Subsubforum:Team 2-A
-Subfrom:Contest B
--Subsubforum:Team 1-B
--Subsubforum:Team 2-B

Like this.

Also, some ideas: Find a meme, make most event-log worthy events, rickroll the most amount of people(memememe), get most views in any thread(thread should be made after the task is given), count to ### first*.

*A new idea: You can have an extra sub forum, and you can have the contest threads here, like count to ## first with the help of only your team members. Or other stuff like get the most non-team member people to post in your thread, I don't know.

Thank you very much for the suggestion LOL. Instead of having your idea of 2 contests, I have changed the game slightly so that there in 3 teams with 10 forumers in each one - this means 30 contestants could play, instead of the original 10. Thanks for giving me the idea to include more people.

Also, I think your task ideas/suggestions are great. There are a lot of good forum suggestions in the uPick forum, but if this one wins, then I may include 1 or 2 of your ideas. Thanks for the ideas LOL.

link4562
25 May 2009, 05:29 PM
Awesome idea. I would join it and hopefully not get fired.

Dozy3000
25 May 2009, 08:24 PM
I think this is a great idea. However there could be problems with timezones in that individual tasks will be given out in the teams to those online rather than those offline (probably sleeping). Therefore others have less things to do and are more likely to get fired.

Samwesty999
25 May 2009, 08:40 PM
I think this is a great idea. However there could be problems with timezones in that individual tasks will be given out in the teams to those online rather than those offline (probably sleeping). Therefore others have less things to do and are more likely to get fired.

Well that is why I am going to give 3 whole days in order for each task to be carried out. When setting tasks, I will try my hardest to set them at around 10pmGMT/5pmEST/2pmPST. Practically all forumers live in these timezones and most should be online at these times or a little bit after. However, I am sure there would be a timezone problem with every contest or gameshow on this forum. I just think it can be avoided if the right time is picked for setting each task.

leelad999
29 May 2009, 11:29 AM
I love the idea. Its good that there will be a variety of people chosen and you have obviously spent alot of time thinking this out.

Well done, my favorite idea in this forum so far.

Samwesty999
30 May 2009, 01:16 PM
Just to let everyone know, I have now added a plan of the competition for if it goes ahead. I have included every single day of the month and what will happen on each day. I added this because I thought it would make things more clearer and give people a better awareness of what would happen. Please go to the first post to see it.