I need Elite Four Help Pearl Version

[superman5997]

Here are the pokemon im thinking of putting in my party for going against the elite four. (kinda sucky)
I kinda dont know wich pokemon to put in so if u could help thats great. Also if u can also include a little strategy plz do so.
Also i provide a list of Tm's I have

Staraptor lvl 53- Close Combat.Brave Bird, Fly, Defog
Palkia lvl 53- Dragon Claw, Avalanche, Special Rend, Ancient Power
Steelix lvl 47- Dragonbreath,Iron Tail,Crunch,double Edge
Machoke lvl 40- Rock Slide, Submission, Wake Up Slap, Cross Chop
Haunter lvl 31- Confuse Ray, Sucker Punch, Payback, Shadow Ball
Bronzong lvl 38- Iron Defense, Safegaurd, Block, Gyro Ball
Snover lvl 32- Swagger, Mist, Ice Shard, Ingrain
Clefairy lvl 31- Wake Up Slap, Cosmic Power, Lucky Chant, Metrenome
Sneasal lvl 33- Fainy Attack, Fury Swipes, Agility, Icy Wind
Golduck lvl 41-Strength, Surf, Waterfall, Zen Headbutt
Golbat lvl 37- Wing Attack, Confuse Ray, Air Cutter, Mean Look
Onix lvl 31- Rock Tomb, Dig, Rock Climb, Iron Tail
Graveler lvl 31- Magnitude, Selfdestruct, Rock Smash, Rock Blast
Infernape lvl 44- Flame Wheel, Fire Blast, Close Combat, Focus Blast

TM'S

Hail
Bullet Seed
SolarBeam
Shadow Ball
Shock Wave
Sludge Bomb
Secret Power
Attract
Skill Swap
Snatch
Brine
Charge Beam
Drain Punch
Embargo
Flash
Stealth Rock
X-Scissor
Sleep Talk
Grass Knot
Swagger
Pluck
Flash Cannon
Trick Room

[Maitias]

Train your Pokemon to level 60 or above. Here is the Elite Four's pokemon and weaknesses.

Aaron:
Dustox, Fire Flying, Psychic, Rock 53
Beautifly, Rock,Fire, Electric, Ice, Flying 53
Vespiqueen, Rock,Fire, Electric, Ice, Flying 54
Heracross,Flying, Fire, Psychic 54
Drapion, Ground 57


Bertha:
Quagsire, Grass 55
Sudowoodo, Grass, Water, Fighting, Ground, Steel 56
Golem, Grass, Water, Fighting, Ground, Steel,Ice 56
Whiscash, Grass 55
Hippowdon, Grass, Water, Ice 59

Flint:
Rapidash, Water, Ground, Rock 58
Steelix, Fire, Water, Fighting, Ground 57
Drifblim, Electric, Ice, Rock, Ghost, Dark 58
Lopunny, Fighting 57
Infernape, Water, Ground, Flying, Psychic 61

Lucian:
Mr.Mime, Bug, Ghost, Dark 59
Girafarig, Bug, Dark 59
Medicham, Flying, Ghost 60
Alakazam, Bug, Ghost, Dark 60
Bronzong, Fire 63

Cynthia, Champion.

Spiritomb, None 61
Roserade, Fire, Ice, Flying, Psychic 60
Gastrodon, Grass 60
Lucario, Fire, Fighting, Ground 63
Milotic, Grass, Electric 63
Garchomp, Ice, Dragon 66

That is it. I used my guide book. And the number by it is its level.

[superman5997]

any other suggestions from anyone else?

[Guanlong]

any other suggestions from anyone else?

Same as what Maitias said.

[Dominati0n]

Get your pokemon to at least level 60, and just remember to use type advantages and you should be fine. Before you start training them all to 60, pick out a team that as all the types you'll need to beat every person in the Elite Four.

Just a suggestion here, you should get a strong grass type, and teach it Sunny Day and SolarBeam, which will take out Bertha's team easily.

[leader706]

get your mate to give you loads of action replay pokemon!
lol, thats how i done it!
now i got a level 100 regigigas!

[Vital Viper]

Get your pokemon to at least level 60, and just remember to use type advantages and you should be fine. Before you start training them all to 60, pick out a team that as all the types you'll need to beat every person in the Elite Four.

Just a suggestion here, you should get a strong grass type, and teach it Sunny Day and SolarBeam, which will take out Bertha's team easily.
I tried with high 40's and 50's and was one pokemon away from beating them anyway. I made sure not to save while I was in so that I didn't mess myself up because I know in the old ones it wouldn't let you out, and I'm OCD and want to play the entire game without ever losing a battle. Thats just how I role :P

Well in my past experiences grass pokemon have been compleatly useless to me later in the game. This is the first time I've ever needed a high level one. Sunnybeam is nice but I prefer Thunderdance.

I don't feel like wasting all that time again so I'm leveling up before I take another shot.

Any tips for taking down spirit bomb? He gave me the most trouble. Took out like half my team right off the bat. I almost had the booger to without losing anyone but my Toxic/Confusion annoyer combo fell one little battle red sliver short and he restored it and took away the poison.

[Yoki]

Any tips for taking down spirit bomb? He gave me the most trouble. Took out like half my team right off the bat. I almost had the booger to without losing anyone but my Toxic/Confusion annoyer combo fell one little battle red sliver short and he restored it and took away the poison.

Well it's not weak against any types so I recommend just doing what you did before and just weaken it from there. The rest of the team besides Garchomp was easy to take out.

[Maitias]

Viper, this is how I beat the Elite Four Champion. I bought a whole bunch of Max Revives. Then, I made my Gengar Learn Destiny Bond. It was awesome.

Any tips for taking down spirit bomb? He gave me the most trouble. Took out like half my team right off the bat. I almost had the booger to without losing anyone but my Toxic/Confusion annoyer combo fell one little battle red sliver short and he restored it and took away the poison.

And you said Spirit bomb XD

[Vital Viper]

Well it's not weak against any types so I recommend just doing what you did before and just weaken it from there. The rest of the team besides Garchomp was easy to take out.
Note to self, Level up Crowbat.

Viper, this is how I beat the Elite Four Champion. I bought a whole bunch of Max Revives. Then, I made my Gengar Learn Destiny Bond. It was awesome.

And you said Spirit bomb XD
1. Is Destiny Bond a HM? Where do I get it?

2. Where do you buy Max Revives?

[KingKitty]

Note to self, Level up Crowbat.


1. Is Destiny Bond a HM? Where do I get it?

2. Where do you buy Max Revives?
1. Destiny Bond isn't an HM, and I don't think there's a TM for it.
2. Max Revives aren't sold in Poke Marts but I think you can dig them up in the Underground. They're pretty rare though so you should probably just use a Revive and then a Full Restore or some sort of potion.

Anyways, when I beat the Elite 4, my pokemon were all around Lv. 53-55 and were Infernape, Staraptor, Bronzong, Abomasnow, Roserade, and Gastrodon.
It was really easy as long as you had plenty of revives and full restores. Lucian was pretty hard though.

[Maitias]

Note to self, Level up Crowbat.


1. Is Destiny Bond a HM? Where do I get it?

2. Where do you buy Max Revives?


1.
* Gastly at Lv.40
* Haunter at Lv.50
* Gengar at Lv.50
* Koffing at Lv.46
* Weezing at Lv.55
* Wobbuffet at Lv.--
* Qwilfish at Lv.53
* Cacnea at Lv.57
* Cacturne at Lv.71
* Wynaut at Lv.15
* Vespiquen at Lv.43
* Froslass at Lv.59

2. Like he said, only in Underground.

[Vital Viper]

1. Destiny Bond isn't an HM, and I don't think there's a TM for it.
2. Max Revives aren't sold in Poke Marts but I think you can dig them up in the Underground. They're pretty rare though so you should probably just use a Revive and then a Full Restore or some sort of potion.

Anyways, when I beat the Elite 4, my pokemon were all around Lv. 53-55 and were Infernape, Staraptor, Bronzong, Abomasnow, Roserade, and Gastrodon.
It was really easy as long as you had plenty of revives and full restores. Lucian was pretty hard though.
lol, meant to sat TM :rolleyes:

Yea, I have two Max Revives. They were talking like you could buy them and I didn't recall ever being able to.

I've got:
Penguin Dude (Predictable huh?)
Crobat
Machamp
Alakazam
Luxray
Staraptor

At this point Hyper potions are enough to fully restore the HP of any of my Pokemon, so I'm staying cheap. I shot myself in the foot by choosing too many powerful low PP moves, and all 4 of my penguin's moves are HMs, ooooops :P

[Yoki]

At this point Hyper potions are enough to fully restore the HP of any of my Pokemon, so I'm staying cheap. I shot myself in the foot by choosing too many powerful low PP moves, and all 4 of my penguin's moves are HMs, ooooops :P

Do you have any heart scales? If so just go the the move deleter (in Canalave City) and delete the HM's your Empoleon has. Then go to Pastoria and in one of the houses there is a Move Re-Learner person. Just give him some good moves. HM's on a battling Poke are never good.

[77pudding]

At this point Hyper potions are enough to fully restore the HP of any of my Pokemon, so I'm staying cheap. I shot myself in the foot by choosing too many powerful low PP moves, and all 4 of my penguin's moves are HMs, ooooops :P

Like yoki said above go to move deleter and move tutor and keep surf for empoleon and teach him grass knot if you have those moves saved me alot in the elite four

[Maitias]

This was my Empoleon's trusty moveset. It got me through the Elite Four, and is dominating the Battle Tower.

Surf,
Ice Beam,
Dig,
Waterfall (I am switching this with Hydro Cannon)

[77pudding]

my empoleon moveset is awesome
Flash cannon
surf
grass knot
ice beam

[Maitias]

my empoleon moveset is awesome
Flash cannon
surf
grass knot
ice beam
We are not asking for your Empoleon's moveset. I was telling him what my Empoleon knew back then.

[Vital Viper]

Do you have any heart scales? If so just go the the move deleter (in Canalave City) and delete the HM's your Empoleon has. Then go to Pastoria and in one of the houses there is a Move Re-Learner person. Just give him some good moves. HM's on a battling Poke are never good.
I don't think I do, although I have tons on Emerald version. I want Pal Park SOOOOO bad :P

Well I haven't really Needed Emoleon for much. Surf was his most powerful/reliable move anyway.

We are not asking for your Empoleon's moveset. I was telling him what my Empoleon knew back then.
It is ok, it is good to see different suggestions if I ever consider rebuilding it's move selection.

[KingKitty]

Do you have any heart scales? If so just go the the move deleter (in Canalave City) and delete the HM's your Empoleon has. Then go to Pastoria and in one of the houses there is a Move Re-Learner person. Just give him some good moves. HM's on a battling Poke are never good.
Not neccesarily. Surf and Waterfall are often used in competitive battle.

[77pudding]

We are not asking for your Empoleon's moveset. I was telling him what my Empoleon knew back then.

i was just posting what my empoleon moves that helped me though too

[Vital Viper]

Not neccesarily. Surf and Waterfall are often used in competitive battle.
Yea they are high power and have decent PP, along with good accuracy. But then to have them both is double dipping. I like to try to spread my moveset among different types.

My Machamp knows Fireblast, it is the only fire move I have. To beat the Steel guy I trained a Ponyta just high enough to be effective.

[Dominati0n]

Not neccesarily. Surf and Waterfall are often used in competitive battle.

Yes, but why would you have both? I find it kind of stupid to have two offensive moves of the same type on a single Pokemon. You need a versatile moveset. If you have surf AND waterfall, why would you use the one that is less powerful? (I'm pretty sure it's waterfall?) Sure, you'll have the other one in case you run out of PP, but that should only be considered when you're going a long distance with lots of battling. But even then, it's kind of silly.

What I like to do for a moveset is to have two offensive moves, of different types, a status changing/inflicting move, and then have space for something else. When I choose the two offensive moves, I have one that is the Pokemon's type, so it gets the STAB bonus thing. If the Pokemon is dual-type, it's good to have the second move as it's second type, so again, you'll get the STAB bonus. An example of this would be a Lapras with Surf and Ice Beam. With those two moves, you'll be prepared to exploit a bigger variety of weaknesses then you would with surf and waterfall.

Then, for the other two moves. For a Lapras, I would give it Sing. it learns the move naturally, and it causes sleep, which is good... because... well, they can't attack you unless they know one of those fancy-pants moves that works while they sleep. The last move could really be anything. I'd personally give it confuse ray, as confusion can really be useful/can annoy your enemy. So, the Lapras' moveset would be:

Surf
Ice Beam
Sing
Confuse Ray

With those offensive moves, it'd be ready to take on any Fire, Rock, Ground, Grass, Flying, and Dragon pokemon, rather then just Fire, Rock, and Ground, which would be the case if you had Surf and Waterfall. Sing and Confuse Ray may make the battle last longer, but battles aren't a race, you want to win, not win fast.

...


^Move set lesson

[KingKitty]

Yes, but why would you have both? I find it kind of stupid to have two offensive moves of the same type on a single Pokemon. You need a versatile moveset. If you have surf AND waterfall, why would you use the one that is less powerful? (I'm pretty sure it's waterfall?) Sure, you'll have the other one in case you run out of PP, but that should only be considered when you're going a long distance with lots of battling. But even then, it's kind of silly.

What I like to do for a moveset is to have two offensive moves, of different types, a status changing/inflicting move, and then have space for something else. When I choose the two offensive moves, I have one that is the Pokemon's type, so it gets the STAB bonus thing. If the Pokemon is dual-type, it's good to have the second move as it's second type, so again, you'll get the STAB bonus. An example of this would be a Lapras with Surf and Ice Beam. With those two moves, you'll be prepared to exploit a bigger variety of weaknesses then you would with surf and waterfall.

Then, for the other two moves. For a Lapras, I would give it Sing. it learns the move naturally, and it causes sleep, which is good... because... well, they can't attack you unless they know one of those fancy-pants moves that works while they sleep. The last move could really be anything. I'd personally give it confuse ray, as confusion can really be useful/can annoy your enemy. So, the Lapras' moveset would be:

Surf
Ice Beam
Sing
Confuse Ray

With those offensive moves, it'd be ready to take on any Fire, Rock, Ground, Grass, Flying, and Dragon pokemon, rather then just Fire, Rock, and Ground, which would be the case if you had Surf and Waterfall. Sing and Confuse Ray may make the battle last longer, but battles aren't a race, you want to win, not win fast.

...


^Move set lesson
I wasn't saying use both on the same moveset. I was just saying that not all HMs were bad moves.

[Dominati0n]

I wasn't saying use both on the same moveset. I was just saying that not all HMs were bad moves.

Ah, sorry. Read your post wrong. I guess that's just directed that has one of those movesets with things similar to waterfall and surf.

[Vital Viper]

Ah, sorry. Read your post wrong. I guess that's just directed that has one of those movesets with things similar to waterfall and surf.
I basically said the same thing as well. I just called it double dipping :P

Although I think Surf is SP Attack and Water Fall is Attack. Thats makes a difference, and then you have the thing where surf his both enemies in a double battle.

Where can I find the TM Earthquake. It is one of my favorites and I would like to have it to help me beat the Elite 4.

[Dominati0n]

I basically said the same thing as well. I just called it double dipping :P

Although I think Surf is SP Attack and Water Fall is Attack. Thats makes a difference, and then you have the thing where surf his both enemies in a double battle.

Where can I find the TM Earthquake. It is one of my favorites and I would like to have it to help me beat the Elite 4.

Didn't read your post, sorry. : P

In Diamond/Pearl (I'm guessing that's what you're playing?) the earthquake TM (TM26) can be found in Wayward Cave, the Battle Tower, and by using Pickup. I just looked it up on bulbapedia...

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/TM26

[Guanlong]

Sorry if you think I am being disrespectful, Lord Vital Viper. (Bows down)


lol, meant to sat TM :rolleyes:

Yea, I have two Max Revives. They were talking like you could buy them and I didn't recall ever being able to.

I've got:
Penguin Dude (Predictable huh?)
Crobat
Machamp
Alakazam
Luxray
Staraptor

At this point Hyper potions are enough to fully restore the HP of any of my Pokemon, so I'm staying cheap. I shot myself in the foot by choosing too many powerful low PP moves, and all 4 of my penguin's moves are HMs, ooooops :P

Eh? Where's your Dialga/Palkia??


Yea they are high power and have decent PP, along with good accuracy. But then to have them both is double dipping. I like to try to spread my moveset among different types.

My Machamp knows Fireblast, it is the only fire move I have. To beat the Steel guy I trained a Ponyta just high enough to be effective.

Steel guy? Are you talking about Lucian's Bronzong?


Oh yeah, Earthquake rocks. Shouldn't have used it on stupid ol' Regigigas.. :blush:

I beat the Elite 4 and Champion with these fellas:

Lv 60++ Dialga (Diamond)
Flamethrower
Earth Power
Roar Of Time
Dragon Claw

Lv 64 Garchomp (Chompy :D)
Dig
Draco Meteor
Dragon Rush
Dragon Claw

Lv 61 Gastrodon
Water Pulse
Mud Bomb
????
????

The rest, including starter Empoleon, were not used.

[Yoki]

)Eh? Where's your Dialga/Palkia??

People don't always use Legendaries to beat a game. I mean I didn't. I used a level 72 Infernape, a level 70 Lucario, and a level 68 Gastrodon.

[Maitias]

Yea. And I traded my Dialga for a Luxray, which was a big part with me beating the Elite Four, and the battle tower.

[Vital Viper]

Didn't read your post, sorry. : P

In Diamond/Pearl (I'm guessing that's what you're playing?) the earthquake TM (TM26) can be found in Wayward Cave, the Battle Tower, and by using Pickup. I just looked it up on bulbapedia...

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/TM26
I usually don't like to look things up, just figured I'd ask :P

I was just in Wayward cave and didn't see it, I guess it is hidden :mad:

People don't always use Legendaries to beat a game. I mean I didn't. I used a level 72 Infernape, a level 70 Lucario, and a level 68 Gastrodon.
Yea, I like to use the party I've had the entire time, and I'm very bias toward the traditional 150.

I finally got everyone in my party up to up to 50, 2-3 around 55. Should I go ahead and give it another shot?

[CoolGuy0934]

I usually don't like to look things up, just figured I'd ask :P

I was just in Wayward cave and didn't see it, I guess it is hidden :mad:


Yea, I like to use the party I've had the entire time, and I'm very bias toward the traditional 150.

I finally got everyone in my party up to up to 50, 2-3 around 55. Should I go ahead and give it another shot?

You can try but I suggest you level up the other 3 to around 55.

[Vital Viper]

You can try but I suggest you level up the other 3 to around 55.
Well my primary training tactic has been slaughtering Tenticrule with my Luxray and Alakazam because I can take them out with one hit thanks to weaknesses. My penguin guy got plently of experience on victory road. So basically I've been abusing EXP share to get the others as high as they are.

Anyone have any other good training methods?

[Dominati0n]

Well my primary training tactic has been slaughtering Tenticrule with my Luxray and Alakazam because I can take them out with one hit thanks to weaknesses. My penguin guy got plently of experience on victory road. So basically I've been abusing EXP share to get the others as high as they are.

Anyone have any other good training methods?

I use the VS Seeker and goto a place where the Pokemon I'm training has a type advantage over the trainers, and just fight them over and over. I also get money from doing this.

I dunno if there's a VS Seeker in D/P, though.

[Vital Viper]

I use the VS Seeker and goto a place where the Pokemon I'm training has a type advantage over the trainers, and just fight them over and over. I also get money from doing this.

I dunno if there's a VS Seeker in D/P, though.
There is but I find it horrible ineffective, in the right spots wild Pokemon give better XP. With the Tenticrule I can get 600 a pop for both the attacking pokemon and the share holder. If VS Seeker didn't have to charge it would be a little better. On other versions I would just destroy the elite four for money. At one point I beat the elite four on my green version with ONLY my Moltres. It was really close though.

[Maitias]

Viper, I have a good method.

First, get all Pokemon to level 55. Second, Use the guide I put earlier about whats super effective, and get Pokemon that would work there. I suggest teaching your Empoleon an ice type move.

[Vital Viper]

Well I took a shot at it and did it. I also completed the pokedex while I was doing it so I finally have Pal, Park! Now training will be no issue :P

Thanks for all your help!

[Yoki]

Hey Vital. Did you get the Gamestop Deoxys yet? It's a great addition to add to your PokeDex.

[Vital Viper]

Hey Vital. Did you get the Gamestop Deoxys yet? It's a great addition to add to your PokeDex.
Wait what? I didn't know about this. How do I get it?

[Maitias]

Viper. look up "Event Deoxys" in the forums.

**Note** You have to do the event, in the store.

[Vital Viper]

Viper. look up "Event Deoxys" in the forums.

**Note** You have to do the event, in the store.
Wait I need help again, How do I get my pokemon to migrate?

nvm found it :P

[Guanlong]

Yea. And I traded my Dialga for a Luxray, which was a big part with me beating the Elite Four, and the battle tower.

OH! I see. But they have so much friendship, I won't let go. :P But I also like my Lv96 Dragonite (I am gonna get another and call it RFS) and Lv73 Garchomp. And Lv93 Swampert. (I over-trained it in Emerald Lol) AND I AM not boasting.

[Vital Viper]

OH! I see. But they have so much friendship, I won't let go. :P But I also like my Lv96 Dragonite (I am gonna get another and call it RFS) and Lv73 Garchomp. And Lv93 Swampert. (I over-trained it in Emerald Lol) AND I AM not boasting.
Oh Don't worry I traded him one of my lvl 100 Dragonites, I named one of my Charmander's RFS and raised it to a lvl 100 Charizard :)

[Guanlong]

Oh Don't worry I traded him one of my lvl 100 Dragonites, I named one of my Charmander's RFS and raised it to a lvl 100 Charizard :)

LOL. I like Dragonite. It looks friendly but its got teh massive destructive powerz and cann pwnzors all other Gen1 not uber pokemon lollollol. :D