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Boyinhood
10 February 2008, 07:55 PM
Multiple Poll Answers
Well I made this thread just because I wanted your opinion on graffiti.
I was just wondering what you thought about it?
Art or Crime?
Personally I think most of it is art.
It really depends though.Example:Like if it has bad words dirty images then I think that they should think about how many people see this graffiti.It also depends on the property.
Im not saying I thinks its ok to spray paint on walls or under bridges.But when people "tag"or "bomb" on like a police building that is just stupid.
Just tell us your opinion.

roofjumper
10 February 2008, 07:56 PM
art on paper crime on high school walls inside and outside. get the point? I do. Have a nice day.

Powdinet
10 February 2008, 08:04 PM
It is art except those random lines put in the walls. also, graffiti shouldnt be done in governament buildings.

Boyinhood
10 February 2008, 08:04 PM
art on paper crime on high school walls inside and outside. get the point? I do. Have a nice day.
What if it's a mural inside a high school or out?

roofjumper
10 February 2008, 08:05 PM
only if its an official mural.

AkaBob22
10 February 2008, 08:12 PM
Art and Crime, because if it washes off, then it's art. If it doesn't, then it's a crime.

Hockeyfan
10 February 2008, 08:25 PM
I think it is both. It is for sure an art, but most graffiti is done illegally.

Can't say that I have not done it before.... :rolleyes:

Oceanside344
10 February 2008, 08:28 PM
I think it is both. If it has inappropriate material in it, it is Crime, but if it is a masterpiece that looks really good, and it is appropriate and not on an important building, then it may be considered Art.

RedneckSlayer42
10 February 2008, 08:28 PM
Its a risque art form. I beleive towns should set aside a special place for graffiti, and wash it weekly.

Mikepain911
10 February 2008, 08:29 PM
I think it's both. crime because you shouldn't be defacing peoples property in the first place. Art because of it cool text and intresting designs.

Lucid Lizard
10 February 2008, 08:48 PM
Both my friend, both. Graffiti and tagging are both crime and art. We were doing that for half an year but we stoped because after some time it gets borning. You should seen when about 10 guys are doing one graffiti in same time. That is real art! ;)

roofjumper
10 February 2008, 08:57 PM
I remember tagging in seventh grade. I stopped but I still have my skills.

Lost all the markers though. Plus I never bough spray cans.

which is a good thing, because in high school a kid got expelled for graffitti

link4562
10 February 2008, 09:04 PM
its both if its on private property and they did it without permission. It's just art if they did it with permission

Lily
10 February 2008, 09:06 PM
Art and Crime, because if it washes off, then it's art. If it doesn't, then it's a crime.

It's deeper than it. I used to do graffiti, it was a form of expression for me. Back then, my parents were divorcced and an idea of living with my "new" dad. I guess, I did graffiti to let all my emotions out and convey my inner feelings to the world without being judged.. I think it's art, not a crime. But, then again it's still illegal on private property. So, that why I did graffiti in alleys and such usually I washed them off.

Boyinhood
10 February 2008, 09:12 PM
I have done it before.
Kinda still do but not often.
My city just buffs it or paints over it so
not alot of people do it anymore.

Dannyboy
11 February 2008, 05:03 AM
I find graffiti to be art when it actually portrays a message while I find it crime when it is just an unplanned string of letters on a wall claiming that the so called "artist" "owns this town".

Playa4ever
11 February 2008, 05:10 AM
Graffiti is definitely a crime! I see it everywhere and it looks really bad. I think it's only art if it is ok to do, it's a crime when you do it behind peoples backs. Some people who graffiti can spray/paint a lot of good art, but in the wrong places. It's a crime beacuase you ain't supposed to do it.

Phenom
11 February 2008, 05:33 AM
It's crime, Imagine you had a big wall in your front yard and someone
Graffiti's it? I wouldn't like .

Dracophile
11 February 2008, 05:38 AM
There is a time and a place for doodles and artwork with paint, and it just so happens that it's NOT "somebody else's property". You can tag up your own stuff as long as you want, but unless the other person doesn't mind then I consider unwanted graffiti to be a crime.

I own part of a workshop and it's been "tagged" before. I went down to work on some projects of mine but instead I ended up repainting the side of the shop with two coats of paint thanks to the "RPT BOYZ". They have also written their symbols all over the dumpsters and bathroom stalls in the movie theater I work at. I want to pin one of them down and spray them in the eyes.

The abandoned grocery store and Wal Mart buildings in town have also been tagged up by skater punk games "LBL" (Little By Little) and others who were probably dropped off and picked up in their mom's minivan.

Frozen Angel
11 February 2008, 09:34 AM
Most of the times, art.
It's actually pretty artistic and creative.

But if you're talking about messy and meaningless scribbles meant to offend someone, than of course it is crime. Ugly crime.

waterycool
11 February 2008, 10:02 AM
Art. Creative and "cool". But it's really a crime if you do on other places that do not belong to you. However, it's a form of an "artistic expression", and there are now places where you can graffiti legally.

walmartshrty
11 February 2008, 12:28 PM
I'm not a big fan of the government anyway. Graffiti, em'. ;D


I would so love to learn how to do graffiti. I've always wanted to have like a graffiti covered car.

Ontopic to the whole Graffiti: Art or Crime? thing: I think it's art, unless it's just squiggly lines, I'd enjoy staring at graffiti more then a blank wall. Actually, if I had a house, I would encourage the little punks to come up and spray paint my house.

7Styl3
11 February 2008, 01:02 PM
however if u do graffiti in public places its crime and art but if it do on right places it used to be art, Anyway heres some cool videos of graffiti, Click Here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQwa7oflnUE) But that one is illegal

Kavitronic
11 February 2008, 01:45 PM
I think its art as long as it can be easily washed off. I hate when people just spray paint a name in bubble words or something, but I think its pretty cool when they actually spray paint art.

Click Here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQwa7oflnUE)

Wow, that is really stupid. :|

There is a time and a place for doodles and artwork with paint, and it just so happens that it's NOT "somebody else's property". You can tag up your own stuff as long as you want, but unless the other person doesn't mind then I consider unwanted graffiti to be a crime.

I own part of a workshop and it's been "tagged" before. I went down to work on some projects of mine but instead I ended up repainting the side of the shop with two coats of paint thanks to the "RPT BOYZ". They have also written their symbols all over the dumpsters and bathroom stalls in the movie theater I work at. I want to pin one of them down and spray them in the eyes.

The abandoned grocery store and Wal Mart buildings in town have also been tagged up by skater punk games "LBL" (Little By Little) and others who were probably dropped off and picked up in their mom's minivan.

That does make a lot of sense, I guess it is pretty much a crime.

TnT
11 February 2008, 02:25 PM
I believe it's art, but it still is a crime.
It's vanlizing others property, but it's still art.

I've never done it before, never will.
I'm not an artist or a criminal. :D

Boyinhood
11 February 2008, 06:06 PM
Wow, that is really stupid. :|
Yea just because the picture was meaningless.
Guts though.

macker
11 February 2008, 09:19 PM
Personally I kinda think its art;)

Bluekingice
11 February 2008, 10:51 PM
It is art except those random lines put in the walls. also, graffiti shouldnt be done in governament buildings.

I only find it art if its volunteer work. Like if its a community project to spray paint art on a city, but anything else(like if its vandalism) is crime.

Connerhco
11 February 2008, 10:54 PM
I did it before, on cars during homecoming and stuff.

That was when i got other bad stuff that day.. ya know.. ;) but yeah, i kinda quit doing all of that bad stuff.

Always
11 February 2008, 11:03 PM
It is both. But it all really depends on what kind of Graffiti we are talking about. There are those gang/clique graffitis, and muraled graffitis.

There are graffiti tournaments that have walla built especially for graffiting. Which is not illegal.

Gand/Clique graffiti is illegal. 1) Usually promotes violance and crime, 2) It is usually done on walls where they don't want graffiti, and 3) it is used to mark territories. Which usually leads to number 1.

Doing graffiti on property not owned by you is called vandalism. Which is a crime. Though it is art, it is illegal art.

art on paper crime on high school walls inside and outside. get the point? I do. Have a nice day.

Paper? Graffiti isn't done on paper.

It is art except those random lines put in the walls. also, graffiti shouldnt be done in governament buildings.

Graffiti shouldn't be done anywhere its illegal.

What if it's a mural inside a high school or out?

A mural means that someone paid an artist to paint onto a wall. Therefore, the person who owns it is allowing the artist to paint on that wall. Boyinhood has a point, roofjumper. Not all paintings on the walls are illegal.

Art and Crime, because if it washes off, then it's art. If it doesn't, then it's a crime.

Doesn't make sense. Just because it washes off doesn't mean its legal. Its art either way, its a crime if done on a wall they aren't authorized to. That would be vandalism wither way.

Hockeyfan
11 February 2008, 11:09 PM
The graffiti got so bad where I live you have to be 18 or older to even buy spray paint.

I saw some graffiti on a house someone was building, sad.

Always
11 February 2008, 11:11 PM
The graffiti got so bad where I live you have to be 18 or older to even buy spray paint.

I saw some graffiti on a house someone was building, sad.

I thought you have to be 18 to buy spray paint anyways. Here you have to be 18 cuz people inhale it to get high.

Hockeyfan
11 February 2008, 11:15 PM
I thought you have to be 18 to buy spray paint anyways. Here you have to be 18 cuz people inhale it to get high.

I heard that from my teacher, he didn't mention getting high.

Boyinhood
11 February 2008, 11:29 PM
Yea here you have to be 18 or older to buy spray paint too.

Always
11 February 2008, 11:37 PM
I heard that from my teacher, he didn't mention getting high.

Oh. Spray paint has a solvent that people abuse. There have been cases where 15 year olds were not allowed to buy spray deoderant.

That is why on the spray deoderants they tell you not to inhale cuz it is deadly. People abuse that stuff all the time.

Boyinhood
11 February 2008, 11:39 PM
Oh. Spray paint has a solvent that people abuse. There have been cases where 15 year olds were not allowed to buy spray deoderant.

That is why on the spray deoderants they tell you not to inhale cuz it is deadly. People abuse that stuff all the time.
Yea I know.
Kids these days:rolleyes:

Always
13 February 2008, 03:36 AM
Yea I know.
Kids these days:rolleyes:

You would know wouldn't you? Come on dude, their are other ways to get high that doesn't lead to have your brain being destroyed. Spray paint just isn't the answer

You are gonna have to kick the stuff, or i am taking my business else where. It is starting to worry me.


You know its bad when your dealer decides to move elsewhere cuz they are worried about you. =P

Boyinhood
13 February 2008, 09:30 PM
You would know wouldn't you? Come on dude, their are other ways to get high that doesn't lead to have your brain being destroyed. Spray paint just isn't the answer

You are gonna have to kick the stuff, or i am taking my business else where. It is starting to worry me.


You know its bad when your dealer decides to move elsewhere cuz they are worried about you. =P
NOOO!!!
I haven't ever done it.
I guess I worded it wrong.
I think it is just stupid to do that kind of stuff.

27SaRa27
14 February 2008, 02:32 AM
i definatly think its art because it looks REALLY cool. Thats why they have thinks like "graffiti walls" in big cities where people can legally graffiti. Its a crime because its on buildings and stuff but i still think its insainly good for just a can or two of spraypaint. i would never do it, not that i have enough artistic talent to, but i still think its pretty impressive.

but nontheless wrong. :( *sigh* stupid laws

kasparovan
14 February 2008, 04:50 PM
well in my town its not art cos it dont look cool its some letters of a swear word so it s bad but some ppl can make it likw a picture that is art

walmartshrty
15 February 2008, 12:49 PM
Check this out. It's some amazing graffiti. Sorry if it's advertising, and sorry about the bumping. D=

http://rooftoplegends2007.blogspot.com/

Boyinhood
15 February 2008, 10:23 PM
Check this out. It's some amazing graffiti. Sorry if it's advertising, and sorry about the bumping. D=

http://rooftoplegends2007.blogspot.com/
Wow they are pretty good.
I wish I was as good as them.

Djquecumber
15 February 2008, 11:03 PM
Art is a crime. I bomb under the name of FL0 Two http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/5527/img000006ol3.jpg
. I only draw on paper now ,but I have taged before. I need Montana Paint though.

Favorite Artists: Can2, Cope2, Sane Smith, T-KID, and OBEY

Boyinhood
15 February 2008, 11:54 PM
Art is a crime. I bomb under the name of FL0 Two http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/5527/img000006ol3.jpg
. I only draw on paper now ,but I have taged before. I need Montana Paint though.

Favorite Artists: Can2, Cope2, Sane Smith, T-KID, and OBEY
Wow your good.
So you tagged before and think it is a crime?

Mister Tux
16 February 2008, 02:36 AM
Well, vandalizing someone else's property is a crime, so I'd say that. Although many places have special walls where people can paint whatever they want; those are neat.

If it's done on private property or designated property, then I'd say it's art. But if it's done on someone else's building, then that's a crime.

mischiefmake
16 February 2008, 02:46 AM
It depends really. If it's drawn on someone else's property without permission, technically it's a crime. Although crime or not, some graffiti art is nothing short of amazing.

Always
17 February 2008, 05:08 AM
NOOO!!!
I haven't ever done it.
I guess I worded it wrong.
I think it is just stupid to do that kind of stuff.

Just giving you a hard time.

Boyinhood
02 December 2008, 02:33 AM
Here is a picture I got off google.
This was a legal wall.
I think most people do graffiti for the thrill and rush.
http://dirtymoney.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/img_6922.jpg
I still think it's art unless you write. "Boyinhood was here" or "I hate cops"
I bumped this because I wanted it to be up for discussion again.

worldking01
02 December 2008, 02:35 AM
I find that Graffiti is the best artwork to me. I took a train from Hartford, Conneticut (?), To New York, New York, and then to Upstate New York. The best part was on our way out of New York City and looking at all of the graffiti. It is just so expressive.

Chandru
02 December 2008, 02:46 AM
I find that Graffiti is the best artwork to me. I took a train from Hartford, Conneticut (?), To New York, New York, and then to Upstate New York. The best part was on our way out of New York City and looking at all of the graffiti. It is just so expressive.

It really makes buildings look old though.

http://bp3.blogger.com/_FOGkrslk078/SCDgZjCrGmI/AAAAAAAABIY/7nngbbhwV-o/s400/IMG_2779.JPG

At first I thought it said Jpmc and I thought, "Our forumers do graffiti? Surely no!"

Boyinhood
02 December 2008, 02:49 AM
At first I thought it said Jpmc and I thought, "Our forumers do graffiti? Surely no!"
*whistles*
Nooo I couldn't imagine any of them doing that.:rolleyes:

GlacialFreez
02 December 2008, 03:16 AM
Crime, even when what you put down isn't stupid or offensive, your still damaging someone's property.

I will admit however that some of graffiti looks really well done.

I'll put it this way, its illegal art.

I have no problem with legalized graffiti walls.

neo789
02 December 2008, 11:36 AM
Crime, even when what you put down isn't stupid or offensive, your still damaging someone's property.

I will admit however that some of graffiti looks really well done.

I'll put it this way, its illegal art.



Exactly what I was probably gonna say.

I see graffiti everyday I went on a field trip on something, and I wondered if it was a crime. So I say yes, but it's also a art. So i guess crime art?

macmaster
02 December 2008, 11:47 AM
I like graffiti as art, but not when they just write some word that can't be typed on the forum or write about rebellion. When it's just art it's crazy!

Gold Soundz
02 December 2008, 12:41 PM
Here is a picture I got off google.
This was a legal wall.
I think most people do graffiti for the thrill and rush.
http://dirtymoney.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/img_6922.jpg
I still think it's art unless you write. "Boyinhood was here" or "I hate cops"
I bumped this because I wanted it to be up for discussion again.

Now that is art.
Graffiti can be art, but if it's just "oh f u" or "---- was here" or whatever, no, it isn't.

peguin21795
02 December 2008, 03:06 PM
I think it is Art, unless you do it on an Owner's building, and that would be crime

Bizor
02 December 2008, 03:14 PM
http://neatorama.cachefly.net/images/2007-02/grafitti-fun-crime.jpg

But there are some communities that put up graffiti walls so the unheard artist can present himself without breaking the law.

bandit3451
02 December 2008, 03:20 PM
I think it is both. If it has inappropriate material in it, it is Crime, but if it is a masterpiece that looks really good, and it is appropriate and not on an important building, then it may be considered Art.

how would you like it if you bought a super cool fort how would you like it if i went and sparyed it with paint after you and the town chiped in to buy it tax payer money anybody its ok im going to get flamed

Snathan!
02 December 2008, 03:46 PM
I think it's crime.
It's defacing someone else's property and makes towns look bad.

If the graffiti is very artistic, then it's stupid of someone so talented to waste their skills by drawing something on a wall. They could get themselves heard, and respected in other ways than that.
Anyway, most graffiti isn't artistic and is just someone writing their name on a wall or drawing the male sexual organ.

Although, I have to agree with one piece of graffiti down my road on a fence saying "THIS IS A FENCE" in black.

Frozen
02 December 2008, 05:09 PM
I think it is Art. But only if it isn't on Art. For example there is this one beautiful boulder that flew off part of a church in a hurricane and someone graffiti'd it and that don't swing :P
I have never done it.

Boyinhood
02 December 2008, 11:54 PM
Now that is art.
Graffiti can be art, but if it's just "oh f u" or "---- was here" or whatever, no, it isn't.
My point exactly.
Another thing that is a dumb crime is graffiti on cars.

walmartshrty
03 December 2008, 12:05 AM
I think it's crime.
It's defacing someone else's property and makes towns look bad.

If the graffiti is very artistic, then it's stupid of someone so talented to waste their skills by drawing something on a wall. They could get themselves heard, and respected in other ways than that.
Anyway, most graffiti isn't artistic and is just someone writing their name on a wall or drawing the male sexual organ.

Although, I have to agree with one piece of graffiti down my road on a fence saying "THIS IS A FENCE" in black.

So you think drawing on a wall is below drawing on paper? The first artists were the ones who drew on cave walls. Those cavemen must have been peeved when they came home and found graffiti on their bedroom walls. :rolleyes:


It's not about respect, it's about bringing color and abstraction to a world full of beige structures. You have obviously never seen a graffiti'd train ride past. Sure, yeah, graffiti can be bad at times, but how do you think people get better?

http://www.razorapple.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/adidas-can2-subway.jpg
Can you do that? You think he/she could have done that on a piece of paper?

Chandru
03 December 2008, 12:14 AM
http://www.razorapple.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/adidas-can2-subway.jpg
Can you do that? You think he/she could have done that on a piece of paper?

Not many can do that, but it still not everyone likes the ones that aren't as beautiful as that one.

Djquecumber
03 December 2008, 02:15 AM
So you think drawing on a wall is below drawing on paper? The first artists were the ones who drew on cave walls. Those cavemen must have been peeved when they came home and found graffiti on their bedroom walls. :rolleyes:


It's not about respect, it's about bringing color and abstraction to a world full of beige structures. You have obviously never seen a graffiti'd train ride past. Sure, yeah, graffiti can be bad at times, but how do you think people get better?

http://www.razorapple.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/adidas-can2-subway.jpg
Can you do that? You think he/she could have done that on a piece of paper?

Can2? He is one of my favorite taggers. Well, Graffiti is ART... Just misunderstood art.

Snathan!
03 December 2008, 04:20 PM
So you think drawing on a wall is below drawing on paper? The first artists were the ones who drew on cave walls. Those cavemen must have been peeved when they came home and found graffiti on their bedroom walls. :rolleyes:


It's not about respect, it's about bringing color and abstraction to a world full of beige structures. You have obviously never seen a graffiti'd train ride past. Sure, yeah, graffiti can be bad at times, but how do you think people get better?

http://www.razorapple.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/adidas-can2-subway.jpg
Can you do that? You think he/she could have done that on a piece of paper?

I don't actually think that looks that good. Cavemen didn't have walls that were owned by people. I've had someone graffiti on one of my walls and it's horrible. Most of the stuff I see is just someone writing their name in some blind attempt to become famous.
It could be done on something that is their's.
Any material.
People just have to learn to express themselves in a way other people don't dislike.
And don't say many people like graffiti, because young people might, but have you ever met an adult that does?

I live just outside London, of course I've been on a train.
I don't know about you, but where I live it is not full of square beige buildings.
Get better at what?

Tetsumonchi
03 December 2008, 08:02 PM
Its both if you think about it. Unless you have permission.

walmartshrty
03 December 2008, 09:07 PM
I don't actually think that looks that good. Cavemen didn't have walls that were owned by people. I've had someone graffiti on one of my walls and it's horrible. Most of the stuff I see is just someone writing their name in some blind attempt to become famous.
It could be done on something that is their's.
Any material.
People just have to learn to express themselves in a way other people don't dislike.
And don't say many people like graffiti, because young people might, but have you ever met an adult that does?

I live just outside London, of course I've been on a train.
I don't know about you, but where I live it is not full of square beige buildings.
Get better at what?

Oh really? Can you do it? Because what I'm looking at is art, but if you think it's bad, then I guess all the graffitists in the world will just have to stop. I'll spread the word. Just because someone is different or new, does not make it a bad thing. Just because you don't like something, doesn't mean you can at least appreciate it for what it is. I can realize when something has value in it.

Yeah, graffiti can be bad, graffiti can be ugly. But not all graffiti is bad, and not all graffiti is ugly. And if someone simply paints on something that is theirs, no one but themselves can enjoy it for what it is. Sure, I can see someone's problem with someone painting on their house or whatever when they didn't give their permission, but if more people would be more lenient about graffiti, then I think that more people would feel like they could ask.
Yes, a matter of fact I do know an adult who likes it. My dad.


Cavemen were people, cavemen owned caves. Hence, caveman.

Square/Rectangular beige buildings are all I see. Most buildings look like crap because no one has paid any attention to them.

Um, I don't know what you were talking about but I kinda meant a rail road train. =o
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3197/2475097210_3efd080319.jpg

Boyinhood
03 December 2008, 09:40 PM
And don't say many people like graffiti, because young people might, but have you ever met an adult that does?

Haven't met them but most(almost all) of the Famous graffiti writers are adults.

InSaNeMuRpHy
03 December 2008, 10:07 PM
I've done a little in my backyard on a fence post, I loved it. I think I actually am going to start doing it on wood, then maybe quit HS.

but most likely i wont skip high school because i am getting my grades up and starting advanced classes.

Rathu
04 December 2008, 02:48 AM
Art at times and Crime at times.

Graffiti is a beautiful art after i quit gfx i started graffiting in a blackbook. No taging on walls for me though, at least i will do it legally. I can maybe buy some canvas's and tag in my backyard.

Art is a crime. I bomb under the name of FL0 Two http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/5527/img000006ol3.jpg
. I only draw on paper now ,but I have taged before. I need Montana Paint though.

Favorite Artists: Can2, Cope2, Sane Smith, T-KID, and OBEY

Can2 is dope. You have some nice art, I just started so im starting out on paper/sketchbooks. I want to spray paint soon though but only in a legal way.

Chandru
04 December 2008, 02:53 AM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3197/2475097210_3efd080319.jpg

Lol that looked like SpongeBob for a second!

If it is legal, it is art, but on public property a crime.

Pac-Man
04 December 2008, 03:41 AM
Haha if it looks cool then its art, if its crap then its a crime.

Snathan!
04 December 2008, 08:23 AM
Oh really? Can you do it? Because what I'm looking at is art, but if you think it's bad, then I guess all the graffitists in the world will just have to stop. I'll spread the word. Just because someone is different or new, does not make it a bad thing. Just because you don't like something, doesn't mean you can at least appreciate it for what it is. I can realize when something has value in it.

Yeah, graffiti can be bad, graffiti can be ugly. But not all graffiti is bad, and not all graffiti is ugly. And if someone simply paints on something that is theirs, no one but themselves can enjoy it for what it is. Sure, I can see someone's problem with someone painting on their house or whatever when they didn't give their permission, but if more people would be more lenient about graffiti, then I think that more people would feel like they could ask.
Yes, a matter of fact I do know an adult who likes it. My dad.


Cavemen were people, cavemen owned caves. Hence, caveman.

Square/Rectangular beige buildings are all I see. Most buildings look like crap because no one has paid any attention to them.

Um, I don't know what you were talking about but I kinda meant a rail road train. =o
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3197/2475097210_3efd080319.jpg

Of course I can't do it. I'm not a particularly artistic person who comes from an extremely inartistic family.
Cavemen drew in their own caves.


Haven't met them but most(almost all) of the Famous graffiti writers are adults.

I was wrong about the adult thing, but the adults I've met all dislike it.


I would've written more, but I gotta go.

Chandru
04 December 2008, 03:50 PM
http://www.gallien.org/serendipity/uploads/graffiti1.jpg

Is there really a point to graffiti? It doesn't symbolize anything, it defaces property, and it's just unintelligible letters. Can you tell me what that says?

blingstr
04 December 2008, 04:43 PM
It's art, but if your not allowed to do it (e.g not your property) then it is crime.

Jpmc10
04 December 2008, 08:41 PM
Well it is Art, for sure but If you're going to express it, do it on a Paper or a place where you can do it.

(Note: When I checked off I've Done It, I did it on Paper, never Illegally.)

walmartshrty
04 December 2008, 08:48 PM
Of course I can't do it. I'm not a particularly artistic person who comes from an extremely inartistic family.
Cavemen drew in their own caves.

I was wrong about the adult thing, but the adults I've met all dislike it.

I would've written more, but I gotta go.

So would you agree it takes some artistic capability to design and paint graffiti?

Did you ask the caveman?


http://www.gallien.org/serendipity/uploads/graffiti1.jpg

Is there really a point to graffiti? It doesn't symbolize anything, it defaces property, and it's just unintelligible letters. Can you tell me what that says?

That's why they call it non-objective artwork. It's usually used in cases of abstraction. Art doesn't have to be meaningful or representational to actually qualify as art.

GSP-x
07 December 2008, 08:33 AM
Well I mean I like graffiti, but only when its something nice to look at, I hate it when people just spray there names on a wall, like Dan 08' or something, I think thats crime. I have never sprayed, and never will.

Djquecumber
07 December 2008, 07:46 PM
http://www.gallien.org/serendipity/uploads/graffiti1.jpg

Is there really a point to graffiti? It doesn't symbolize anything, it defaces property, and it's just unintelligible letters. Can you tell me what that says?

It symbolizes free speech. If there was no graffiti then where would all the artists we have today come from? Graffiti is art, you just have to thing out of the box to get it.
AND IT SAYS: SYCYU

Boyinhood
10 February 2009, 11:29 PM
Well it is Art, for sure but If you're going to express it, do it on a Paper or a place where you can do it.

(Note: When I checked off I've Done It, I did it on Paper, never Illegally.)
What fun is that.
You want the world to see your art.
It takes too much time to enter it in an art show on paper :P

Football09
10 February 2009, 11:33 PM
Graffiti is a crime. And Vandalism.

Chandru
10 February 2009, 11:38 PM
What fun is that.
You want the world to see your art.
It takes too much time to enter it in an art show on paper :P

It takes too much time to stand in line at the supermarket. Do you just steal everything you need?

Boyinhood
10 February 2009, 11:39 PM
It takes too much time to stand in line at the supermarket. Do you just steal everything you need?
Usually.
Haha nah.
But you know what I mean.
It may sound weird but some people are better with spray paint than a pencil

Jay Bird
10 February 2009, 11:40 PM
http://www.gallien.org/serendipity/uploads/graffiti1.jpg

Is there really a point to graffiti? It doesn't symbolize anything, it defaces property, and it's just unintelligible letters. Can you tell me what that says?

Dude, why can't all the graffiti in my town look like THAT instead of the regular old, two second spray paint thing?! If it looked like THAT, I wouldn't care. IT IS TEH AWESOMENESS. @_@

If it's actually done with care and meant to be art, then I'm not really as mad at the guy. It's still technically a crime, but not in my eyes if the guy (or girl!) meant to make it pretty and actually took the time and effort to make it uniquely his or her own thing.

*Sigh* But usually, the graffiti here is only made because the person wanted to be a jerk about it. BUT, there was a bit of graffiti made on like, the second day of school that actually looked AWESOME. I was sad when they painted over it. :(

Penny44546
11 February 2009, 12:21 AM
Well graffiti can be both art and a crime imo. You see, it is art because, well, it just is. But it can also be a crime because what if someone just puts some graffiti on a building that doesn't allow graffiti?

drew618
11 February 2009, 12:26 AM
http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/fail-owned-graffiti-wall-fail.jpg

"graffiti artwork" "vandalized" It's both.

In Soviet Russia, wall crimes you.
In Communist China, you crime wall.

Chandru
11 February 2009, 12:45 AM
Usually.
Haha nah.
But you know what I mean.
It may sound weird but some people are better with spray paint than a pencil

I'm all for them painting. But must they use someone else's wall? It's like me using your toothbrush. You'll never use it again, so it is vandalized, like what graffiti does.

biodue123
11 February 2009, 12:51 AM
i think its both, some of them are AWESOME!:shout: while some are ok, but more crime i think......

penguindude515
11 February 2009, 12:59 AM
It's art, but yes, also crime, and shouldn't be done. I've never done it before.

REBEL
11 February 2009, 01:15 AM
In my opinion it's both. Technically it's a crime but it's art, too. And for the most part I love it if it's done by someone who has experience with it. Whenever I go to NYC I see graffiti and it can really make a drab neighborhood look colorful and almost exciting.

If I knew how to do it, I probably would.

Jeebus
11 February 2009, 01:29 AM
It depends. I see it on the walls of the highway all the time and it kinda makes it a bit more interesting. Just something to read while i'm in the car. Also, some people are paid to do graffiti so you could consider art in that case. If it's swear words though or something they would have to remove, it could be considered a crime.