The Iceberg ~ The Official Forums Newspaper - Issue 1!

[shortkid7t9]

This is a paper of the forums. Similair to what I will say in pg 3, This paper discusses the forums and unlike the wonderfire news and PMC times teams (they write stuff about happenings in CP) I write about happening on the forums. well go on and read the first issue!

Cover - http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa81/pokester43/Cover.png
pg 2 and 3 - http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa81/pokester43/pg2and3.png
pg 4 and 5 - http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa81/pokester43/pg4and5.png
pg 6 and 7 - http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa81/pokester43/pg6and7.png
pg 8 and 9 - http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa81/pokester43/pg8and9.png

Please comment on the paper and honestly dont be afriad to say you hate it, but if you do please give me tips to make it better. I already know there needs to be more pics. but it is a forums paper! Please dont by shy any suggestions about the editorial next week, etc. Thanks for reading

Edit: WOW I meant links but this will do too lol

o and srry font is very blurry

[Pingu 14792]

Hi.
I give the paper 6/10 points.

The text is REALLY hard to read sometimes, and I don't like what you said about non-members...:|

[Oceanside344]

It's pretty good for a first issue, but a suggestion for the next one. Clearer text. Sometimes it is hard to read. I'd give it a 7/10. I also agree with the non-member part. I do respect them, but it is getting annoying with all of the threads about non-memebr clothing catalogue and whatever. If you want to buy the stuff, pay the 6 dollars a month or keep it to yourself. Members pay to get the stuff.

[shortkid7t9]

Hi.
I give the paper 6/10 points.

The text is REALLY hard to read sometimes, and I don't like what you said about non-members...:|

It's pretty good for a first issue, but a suggestion for the next one. Clearer text. Sometimes it is hard to read. I'd give it a 7/10. I also agree with the non-member part. I do respect them, but it is getting annoying with all of the threads about non-memebr clothing catalogue and whatever. If you want to buy the stuff, pay the 6 dollars a month or keep it to yourself. Members pay to get the stuff.

Thank you both. As for Pingu the non-member part is true. Look I promise that I have never been mean to a non-member. And for that fact, I have never really had an occasion where I would be able to. nopt that i would. Believe me I wouldnt!its true though wether you like it or not. Look at oceansides post.

[Pingu 14792]

Thank you both. As for Pingu the non-member part is true. Look I promise that I have never been mean to a non-member. And for that fact, I have never really had an occasion where I would be able to. nopt that i would. Believe me I wouldnt!its true though wether you like it or not. Look at oceansides post.

Look, we non-members don't say that ALL MEMBERS are mean to us. We say that MANY MEMBERS are mean. If you treat non-members like members, then you are a good penguin.
There are penguins, that DO NOT respect us, and THAT is what we don't like.

;)

-Pingu 14792

[Makarov]

Thanks for putting a little add for my party in. No offense, but none of the papers are really official. It could be a little cleaner and easier to read though. 6/10.

[shortkid7t9]

Look, we non-members don't say that ALL MEMBERS are mean to us. We say that MANY MEMBERS are mean. If you treat non-members like members, then you are a good penguin.
There are penguins, that DO NOT respect us, and THAT is what we don't like.

;)

-Pingu 14792

Thanks for putting a little add for my party in. No offense, but none of the papers are really official. It could be a little cleaner and easier to read though. 6/10.

Thanks Pitty, and are there any other forum newspaper? lol jk and yeah i know

Pingu, sure I agree with you I have never witnessed it but I do know it happens, like the trickster group. But I am not like that. I m just sayin in this paper they just keep wanting stuff, which is true maybe not you but other non-members do. A free item comes out then 2 weeks later they start saying we need more clothes, we want a bigger igloo, more respect, etc.

[iamyellow]

Hey, first of all I would like to say thanks for using my Templates.:)
There is a thing you can do one paint when your in the text box you can make it so the white background of the text box goes away and leaves the main page it makes it look much more neater to do this, do this below when you've opened a text box
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/2584/clickge7.png

Also it looks a bit fuzzy did you make it smaller? Can you tell me I am wondering, well good for your first try:) 8/10

[Donnybrook]

Good effort, it seems like you copied 'The Burgs' name because they quit. 6/10

[Biggyp]

The entire quality of the paper is really bad.
It looks like you used Paint for the paper.

Try maybe getting a better program.

[Jojo101430]

I thought it was pretty good. Like the others said clearer text would be much but. Also I found a typo in there somewhere. Be sure to proof it before posting. It was pretty good though. I would read it again. Catchy name and it has a different spin on it because it is about the forumsw. Nice work. I would say 7/10.

[shortkid7t9]

Hey, first of all I would like to say thanks for using my Templates.:)
There is a thing you can do one paint when your in the text box you can make it so the white background of the text box goes away and leaves the main page it makes it look much more neater to do this, do this below when you've opened a text box
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/2584/clickge7.png

Also it looks a bit fuzzy did you make it smaller? Can you tell me I am wondering, well good for your first try:) 8/10

Thanks iamyellow it is a honor to be complimented by you! And actually I didnt make the font smaller see Im a idiot wen it comes to computers....i cannot do anything.....so i used print artist to type... print artist! yeah so i just copied and pasted, some of the font was blurry wen i moved it though. Once agin thanks and I wil definetly use that button.

[Mikepain911]

7/10. First i want to say thanks for putting Live CP in the newspaper. I appreciate it. NOw about the actual newspaper, It was messy in certain parts. For example: Hard to read, pictures are choppy. Anyways, i think all of the articles were good (I only diagree with the non-member article). I think your next one will be better.

[S7udjack™]

i found alot of spelling errors, and the type is horrible, but nice effort i guess.

[The Rock]

8/10. You posted this in text form, i rated it 0/10. In the paper, heck 8/10!:D
You did some errors and some stuff...

[shortkid7t9]

Thanks, I know that right now it isnt that comparable to th eother big papers but i think next time it will be better. Thanks again!

[PenguinWonder]

Oh, I absolutely LOVE the way you say 'unlike wonderfire or PMC times'. It really shows through. You know, you don't see us comparing our papers to yours. :|

I really don't like the overall layout, or the graphics. The images are fuzzy and the text hard to read. The only good part is the template. :rolleyes: Sorry, I don't see a hit...

[shortkid7t9]

Oh, I absolutely LOVE the way you say 'unlike wonderfire or PMC times'. It really shows through. You know, you don't see us comparing our papers to yours. :|

I really don't like the overall layout, or the graphics. The images are fuzzy and the text hard to read. The only good part is the template. :rolleyes: Sorry, I don't see a hit...

Alrite didnt mean to make a rival, sorry im a one man buisness. An I will produce this paper every week unlike yours which is almost the samething as the CP newspaper. Except with not-great interviews.

[PenguinWonder]

Alrite didnt mean to make a rival, sorry im a one man buisness. An I will produce this paper every week unlike yours which is almost the samething as the CP newspaper. Except with not-great interviews.

That's the problem. If you produce 1 every week, then the quality goes down. This is because you rush up and don't take your time. And, it takes a team to make a paper. Try getting a friend to write an article for you or something. And lastly, don't say things such as 'unlike so & so' unless you can back it up. ;)

[Stopsign89]

Alrite didnt mean to make a rival, sorry im a one man buisness. An I will produce this paper every week unlike yours which is almost the samething as the CP newspaper. Except with not-great interviews.

Hey ill do graphics for you (like putting the stuff on the paper) Im not very good but you need one. Ive done some papers (on the old forums)I rate the paper a 5/10 good stories bad graphics.

[shortkid7t9]

That's the problem. If you produce 1 every week, then the quality goes down. This is because you rush up and don't take your time. And, it takes a team to make a paper. Try getting a friend to write an article for you or something. And lastly, don't say things such as 'unlike so & so' unless you can back it up. ;)

For one thing, no you dont need a team. For another, the qulity does not go down , when a month is way too long. ANd when I say things like "unlike wonderfire" I dont mean it in a competitive way....honestly I was just saying it was different then you paper. There is nothing to back up about that....?

[PenguinWonder]

For one thing, no you dont need a team. For another, the qulity does not go down , when a month is way too long. ANd when I say things like "unlike wonderfire" I dont mean it in a competitive way....honestly I was just saying it was different then you paper. There is nothing to back up about that....?

Way too long? A month? Do you recall the truth? Greatest old forum newspaper? Well, they came out every month and rocked. Us & the PMC times come out every couple weeks to a month. You can't rush perfection & quality. I could whip up what you did in 20 minutes tops. It takes time & strength to make a paper interesting. Take WonderFire for example. We have a strong team with a good foundation. We get the job done the way we need to in all the time we need. So, I will end this discussion now. But take this not as rude critism, but as a suggestion.

[shortkid7t9]

Hey ill do graphics for you (like putting the stuff on the paper) Im not very good but you need one. Ive done some papers (on the old forums)I rate the paper a 5/10 good stories bad graphics.

Really that would be awesome. Just askin because I honestly am a idiot with the computer how do you do graphics then I put it in the paper im writing?

[Stopsign89]

Really that would be awesome. Just askin because I honestly am a idiot with the computer how do you do graphics then I put it in the paper im writing?

For Paint Make the picture copy it paste on the paper and done! lol
And how about you change it to every 2 weeks.

[Plazma811]

not bad for your first one but it was a bit sloppy, the text was hard to read and there was some spelling errors, i think you should of left the non member article if you ask me, but thats just my opinion.

[Lion55500]

Not all non-members are like that. I'm not like that. Maybe because i have another account with a membership. :cool:

[shortkid7t9]

For Paint Make the picture copy it paste on the paper and done! lol
And how about you change it to every 2 weeks.

Alrite alrite,,, I guess ill make it every 2 weeks do you need my e-mail or something?

[Frozen Angel]

I rate it 6/10. The article on non-members should be put under an editorial or review section. Newspaper journalists can't be biased toward the members. Ok I'm not saying the non-members are not wrong. Non-members should not protest too much, but I still think that article should be in an editorial section or not even there at all.

[shortkid7t9]

I rate it 6/10. The article on non-members should be put under an editorial or review section. Newspaper journalists can't be biased toward the members. Ok I'm not saying the non-members are not wrong. Non-members should not protest too much, but I still think that article should be in an editorial section or not even there at all.


It is in a editorial section, I thought i added that...yeah i was meaning for that to be in an editorial....

[Stopsign89]

Probally and Can you make a Thread About this Paper in the clubs and teams section (or I will)

[shortkid7t9]

Probally and Can you make a Thread About this Paper in the clubs and teams section (or I will)

Yeah sure I will, although I dont want to seem like another PMC or wonderfire....look nothing competitive again but those 2 newspaper are big. If I do make it I will make it tommorrow, i dunno if you live on the east coast but it is 11.

[Stopsign89]

Yeah sure I will, although I dont want to seem like another PMC or wonderfire....look nothing competitive again but those 2 newspaper are big. If I do make it I will make it tommorrow, i dunno if you live on the east coast but it is 11.
No, Well im just saying we could use like 2 more people.I guess I will make it. If your ok with that.

[Black Dragon]

Sorry, but that paper is utter rubbish. 4/10.

[shortkid7t9]

No, Well im just saying we could use like 2 more people.I guess I will make it. If your ok with that.

Sorry, but that paper is utter rubbish. 4/10.

STopsign stop,,, lol no really I will make it tommorrow! I will guarantee you a spot and I really do owe it all to you for the idea, but I really would like a thread now. Ill make it tommorrow.

Black dragon: Im not sayin that it is because your from wonderfire , but the fact is you are...so I take your "insult" as a grain of salt.

[Stopsign89]

STopsign stop,,, lol no really I will make it tommorrow! I will guarantee you a spot and I really do owe it all to you for the idea, but I really would like a thread now. Ill make it tommorrow.

Black dragon: Im not sayin that it is because your from wonderfire , but the fact is you are...so I take your "insult" as a grain of salt.

Ok Well I could if you want Cause for me its only 8:10. But YOu can do it tomorrow.

[Black Dragon]

Black dragon: Im not sayin that it is because your from wonderfire , but the fact is you are...so I take your "insult" as a grain of salt.
Erm, I realy don't understand what you just mean. BTW sorry.

[[-Agent-]]

7/10

Try transparent text, you use paint but if you HAD photoshop you should blend photos and chose different fronts.

Regards,
Agent

[wweadam]

Cool. The text does need a little work, but I give it a 8/10 because I know I couldnt do it myself.

[Me Allowed]

thx for telling me that info i couldnt remember when liquids party was!:D
thx

[iamyellow]

That's the problem. If you produce 1 every week, then the quality goes down. This is because you rush up and don't take your time. And, it takes a team to make a paper. Try getting a friend to write an article for you or something. And lastly, don't say things such as 'unlike so & so' unless you can back it up. ;)

Um, you don't need a team, I made mine by myself. And they were a hit, I think that if your first paper is not good you will have more of a fun experience, I at the start of iamyellow news (June 2006) Had not that good papers but as time went on I learnt new ways of doing stuff and got to know MS paint, and see it at a different level, well I used to see it as a bad software but once you know all the tips for it and what works well with it. It's not as fun if your papers don't change and you don't learn anything from it. So I think this paper could be a big hit.

[waterycool]

The paper itself is a little too short. You could add some interesting threads and provide the link, and like what the others said, just improve the text quality.

[shortkid7t9]

Um, you don't need a team, I made mine by myself. And they were a hit, I think that if your first paper is not good you will have more of a fun experience, I at the start of iamyellow news (June 2006) Had not that good papers but as time went on I learnt new ways of doing stuff and got to know MS paint, and see it at a different level, well I used to see it as a bad software but once you know all the tips for it and what works well with it. It's not as fun if your papers don't change and you don't learn anything from it. So I think this paper could be a big hit.

Thanks iamyellow, I think I am going to make a thread for it. i reallt did enjy making it bymyself but I worked 2 very long hours (and yes I know the quality doesnt show it) but with that I could use help with graphics and etc. Once again thanks iamyellow.

[xflashyredx]

4.5/10. Sorry, but it looks extremely rushed. I had to strain my eyes to read what you wrote. Also, try putting more pictures in.

One question, what is with the comparing of your newspaper to the WonderFire News and the PMC? I read a lot of "unlike WonderFire and PMC...". It looks to me as if you are trying too hard to be original. Your paper is already pretty unique, you don't need to say that sorta stuff. Plus, it gets annoying too. :P

Good luck on your next paper, hopefully the font will be readable. Nah, jk. ;)


Edit: You work on this for two hours? Our paper actually takes more than a week usually. :O

[shortkid7t9]

4.5/10. Sorry, but it looks extremely rushed. I had to strain my eyes to read what you wrote. Also, try putting more pictures in.

One question, what is with the comparing of your newspaper to the WonderFire News and the PMC? I read a lot of "unlike WonderFire and PMC...". It looks to me as if you are trying too hard to be original. Your paper is already pretty unique, you don't need to say that sorta stuff. Plus, it gets annoying too. :P

Good luck on your next paper, hopefully the font will be readable. Nah, jk. ;)

No I dont know where you get the competitive edge from unlike so and so. I was just saying it is different from your papers. Thats all I was sayin. I guess, thanks:rolleyes:

Edit: yes I work on it for two hours. When your by yourself yes you can make a paper in two hours. You try it...

[xflashyredx]

No I dont know where you get the competitive edge from unlike so and so. I was just saying it is different from your papers. Thats all I was sayin. I guess, thanks:rolleyes:

Edit: yes I work on it for two hours. When your by yourself yes you can make a paper in two hours. You try it...

Lol no thanks I don't have time for that. :P Definitely not in two hours anyway.

All papers are different because they are made by different people. (In my opinion)

[shortkid7t9]

Lol no thanks I don't have time for that. :P Definitely not in two hours anyway.

All papers are different because they are made by different people. (In my opinion)

Yeah thats true also, but 2 hours is a long time... for sitting at your computer non-stop. Yeah you guys take a week, I highly doubt that your working for 24 hrs 7 days a week.

[waddles 4ever]

dude dont you think ur being a little harsh to us non members

[shortkid7t9]

dude dont you think ur being a little harsh to us non members

How? I am not saying their mean im justy sayin that they ask for to much when they dont pay anything. I am not saying you or any other specific non=member is like this but...many are. And it was suppose to be in an editorial section! Sorry.

[iamyellow]

dude dont you think ur being a little harsh to us non members

shortkid7t9 (http://penguinforum.miniclip.com/member.php?u=3517) is entitled to his own opinion, just as you are to your own opinion.

[Yellowtail]

Completely yuck. Please, please work on the graphics before releasing another issue.

[AkaBob22]

Completely yuck. Please, please work on the graphics before releasing another issue.

He's getting help, so you can stop with the comments.

[Balti]

This newspaper is too bad to be rated

[AkaBob22]

This newspaper is too bad to be rated

He at least tried Balti.

Like I said he is getting extra help on the next paper.
Quote from shortkid:
Please I know that the first issue looks very ... not great? But our paper will progress with every issue.

[Snowball3028]

1/10. It is extremely sloppy and I am very unhappy how you treated non-members.

[AkaBob22]

1/10. It is extremely sloppy and I am very unhappy how you treated non-members.

1. It was his first issue
2. He made it by himself.
3. You guys really need to get over the non-member mis-treatment stuff. I'm all for it, but you guys are really getting over your heads wit this stuff.

Read my quote from shortkid.

EDIT:
I just read the non-member article, and I have to agree with him:
http://i12.tinypic.com/6415klu.png

[Balti]

1. It was his first issue
2. He made it by himself.
3. You guys really need to get over the non-member mis-treatment stuff. I'm all for it, but you guys are really getting over your heads wit this stuff.

Read my quote from shortkid.

EDIT:
I just read the non-member article, and I have to agree with him:
http://i12.tinypic.com/6415klu.png

Ok,ask him if he wants help from me.I use Gimp.

[shortkid7t9]

Ok,ask him if he wants help from me.I use Gimp.

Balti, you can if you want but post in the clubs and teams sub-forum, and the non-member article was hinestly suppose to be an editorial... and thanks Akabob, for sticking up with me. It is true that I did do it by myself and I am not that goodbut now that I have help....;)

[xflashyredx]

1. It was his first issue
2. He made it by himself.
3. You guys really need to get over the non-member mis-treatment stuff. I'm all for it, but you guys are really getting over your heads wit this stuff.

Read my quote from shortkid.[/IMG]

If he doesn't want "mis-treatment" then he shouldn't post the paper. If he posts a paper on the forums, obviously there's gotta be some people that dislike it or don't agree with a paper's contents. He should be expecting criticism, and he's handled it pretty well, and people know that he made it by himself. You can't just make up excuses just because a couple of people give him bad feedback, unless someone is being rude on purpose of course.

[Balti]

Balti, you can if you want but post in the clubs and teams sub-forum, and the non-member article was hinestly suppose to be an editorial... and thanks Akabob, for sticking up with me. It is true that I did do it by myself and I am not that goodbut now that I have help....;)

Ok.I could make lot of Stuff.Just ask me.

[shortkid7t9]

Ok.I could make lot of Stuff.Just ask me.

Cool, thanks for joining the staff and welcome.