View Full Version : .::How To Legally Copyright A Non-Club Penguin Related Game That You Made::.
Guci22
18 July 2007, 06:36 PM
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I have seen a few cases of people wanting to copyright games. This is sort of expensive at 45 dollars but if you pay it nobody can steal your work. You can even sue if it gets serious! But as QAZAR said you cannot copyright a club penguin related game.
Getting a copyright for your work is surprisingly simple. USA.gov explains the 3-step process, which requires filing an application, paying $45, and mailing a non-returnable version of your work to the Library of Congress. Ever wondered what you can get a copyright for? It's probably more inclusive than you thought.
Common literary works include: fiction, nonfiction, manuscripts, poetry, contributions to collective works, compilations of data or other literary subject matter, dissertations, theses, reports, speeches, bound or looseleaf volumes, secure tests, pamphlets, brochures, textbooks, online works, reference works, directories, catalogs, advertising copy, single pages of text, tracts, games, automated databases, and computer programs.
Exerpt from a post at Lifehacker.com (Original Post) (http://lifehacker.com/software/how-to/copyright-your-literary-work-278007.php)
Read this post that QAZAR made!
Actually you can't cpoyrite a fan game.
This is because in the terms and conditions of CP's game they state that anything resembling or taken from their game is their property.
Copyrites are much more expensive than $45, if you pay $45 you are being scammed.
I have copyrited comic strips and products which I designed in college, which cost about $200+ ( I used an lawyer)
Unless your game has nothing to do with something else (meaning used different sprites, not made using game making software, except for flash, and has nothing that resembles something else), you are looking at copyrite enfringement.
You also have to use public domain fonts, unless you made your own. Because some fonts, such as Cp's is trademarked.
I hope that expains more.
terms of CP:
You may not (and you agree not to permit another person to): a) redistribute, sell or otherwise copy The Software; b) modify, translate or create derivative works based on The Software; c) attempt to decompile, reverse engineer, disassemble or otherwise reduce The Software to a human-readable form, except to the extent applicable laws specifically prohibit such restriction; d) remove any identification, copyright or other proprietary notices; or e) create other software that incorporates The Software. WITHOUT LIMITING THE FOREGOING, COPYING OR REPRODUCTION OF THE CONTENT OR SOFTWARE TO ANY OTHER SERVER OR LOCATION FOR FURTHER REPRODUCTION OR REDISTRIBUTION IS EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED
All you can do is just not give away alot of information while you make the game. If your game is complex, it will be harder to copy.
You see a lot of fan games online everywhere. Just look at Mario, there are thousands of fan made mario games, but they all ultimately belong to Nintendo. If Nintendo wants them shut down, they have the law on their side
QAZAR
18 July 2007, 06:42 PM
Actually you can't cpoyrite a fan game.
This is because in the terms and conditions of CP's game they state that anything resembling or taken from their game is their property.
Copyrites are much more expensive than $45, if you pay $45 you are being scammed.
I have copyrited comic strips and products which I designed in college, which cost about $200+ ( I used an lawyer)
Unless your game has nothing to do with something else (meaning used different sprites, not made using game making software, except for flash, and has nothing that resembles something else), you are looking at copyrite enfringement.
You also have to use public domain fonts, unless you made your own. Because some fonts, such as Cp's is trademarked.
I hope that expains more.
terms of CP:
You may not (and you agree not to permit another person to): a) redistribute, sell or otherwise copy The Software; b) modify, translate or create derivative works based on The Software; c) attempt to decompile, reverse engineer, disassemble or otherwise reduce The Software to a human-readable form, except to the extent applicable laws specifically prohibit such restriction; d) remove any identification, copyright or other proprietary notices; or e) create other software that incorporates The Software. WITHOUT LIMITING THE FOREGOING, COPYING OR REPRODUCTION OF THE CONTENT OR SOFTWARE TO ANY OTHER SERVER OR LOCATION FOR FURTHER REPRODUCTION OR REDISTRIBUTION IS EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED
All you can do is just not give away alot of information while you make the game. If your game is complex, it will be harder to copy.
You see a lot of fan games online everywhere. Just look at Mario, there are thousands of fan made mario games, but they all ultimately belong to Nintendo. If Nintendo wants them shut down, they have the law on their side
Guci22
18 July 2007, 06:48 PM
Actually you can't cpoyrite a fan game.
This is because in the terms and conditions of CP's game they state that anything resembling or taken from their game is their property.
Copyrites are much more expensive than $45, if you pay $45 you are being scammed.
I have copyrited comic strips and products which I designed in college, which cost about $200+ ( I used an lawyer)
Unless your game has nothing to do with something else (meaning used different sprites, not made using game making software, except for flash, and has nothing that resembles something else), you are looking at copyrite enfringement.
You also have to use public domain fonts, unless you made your own. Because some fonts, such as Cp's is trademarked.
I hope that expains more.
terms of CP:
You may not (and you agree not to permit another person to): a) redistribute, sell or otherwise copy The Software; b) modify, translate or create derivative works based on The Software; c) attempt to decompile, reverse engineer, disassemble or otherwise reduce The Software to a human-readable form, except to the extent applicable laws specifically prohibit such restriction; d) remove any identification, copyright or other proprietary notices; or e) create other software that incorporates The Software. WITHOUT LIMITING THE FOREGOING, COPYING OR REPRODUCTION OF THE CONTENT OR SOFTWARE TO ANY OTHER SERVER OR LOCATION FOR FURTHER REPRODUCTION OR REDISTRIBUTION IS EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED
Doesn't that mean that fan games from club penguin are Illeagal? Uh-Oh
Viper92107
18 July 2007, 06:50 PM
Actually you can't cpoyrite a fan game.
This is because in the terms and conditions of CP's game they state that anything resembling or taken from their game is their property.
Copyrites are much more expensive than $45, if you pay $45 you are being scammed.
I have copyrited comic strips and products which I designed in college, which cost about $200+ ( I used an lawyer)
Unless your game has nothing to do with something else (meaning used different sprites, not made using game making software, except for flash, and has nothing that resembles something else), you are looking at copyrite enfringement.
You also have to use public domain fonts, unless you made your own. Because some fonts, such as Cp's is trademarked.
I hope that expains more.
terms of CP:
You may not (and you agree not to permit another person to): a) redistribute, sell or otherwise copy The Software; b) modify, translate or create derivative works based on The Software; c) attempt to decompile, reverse engineer, disassemble or otherwise reduce The Software to a human-readable form, except to the extent applicable laws specifically prohibit such restriction; d) remove any identification, copyright or other proprietary notices; or e) create other software that incorporates The Software. WITHOUT LIMITING THE FOREGOING, COPYING OR REPRODUCTION OF THE CONTENT OR SOFTWARE TO ANY OTHER SERVER OR LOCATION FOR FURTHER REPRODUCTION OR REDISTRIBUTION IS EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED
All you can do is just not give away alot of information while you make the game. If your game is complex, it will be harder to copy.
You see a lot of fan games online everywhere. Just look at Mario, there are thousands of fan made mario games, but they all ultimately belong to Nintendo. If Nintendo wants them shut down, they have the law on their side
Yes,
Fan-Games can not be Copyrighted.:rolleyes:
acef596
18 July 2007, 06:51 PM
Doesn't that mean that fan games from club penguin are Illeagal? Uh-Oh
No there legal they just can't have a copyright.
Viper92107-I bet everything I own that you didn't know that until Qazar posted that.
QAZAR
18 July 2007, 06:52 PM
Doesn't that mean that fan games from club penguin are Illeagal? Uh-Oh
Only if you try and make a profit.
As long as you are sharing it for free it is just looked at as fan art.
I can draw a mickey mouse and put it on my shirt, I could even give a few to my friends. But as soon as I start selling my rinky dink t-shirts I can get in trouble.
If you go on any game site, where they have fan games, you will see many knock offs of original games. Those are all fan made and not copyrited.
That is why I am doing dragonplay lol, yey money for me!!
Guci22
18 July 2007, 06:55 PM
Only if you try and make a profit.
As long as you are sharing it for free it is just looked at as fan art.
I can draw a mickey mouse and put it on my shirt, I could even give a few to my friends. But as soon as I start selling my rinky dink t-shirts I can get in trouble.
If you go on any game site, where they have fan games, you will see many knock offs of original games. Those are all fan made and not copyrited.
So do you think I should request to delete this thread?
CoolJayk
18 July 2007, 06:55 PM
Yes,
Fan-Games can not be Copyrighted.:rolleyes:
Just trying to be smart...
Anyway, i thought fan games could GET copyrighted, but all of them will die in about a year or 2 so
QAZAR
18 July 2007, 06:57 PM
So do you think I should request to delete this thread?
No, it is informative. Some games here are just inspired by CP. If for any reason someone claims they have a copyrite on their game, you can tell them to read this.
Also, it helps the people who just want to make a game "like" CP but not contain anything CP has.
Guci22
18 July 2007, 06:57 PM
No, it is informative. Some games here are just inspired by CP. If for any reason someone claims they have a copyrite on their game, you can tell them to read this.
Also, it helps the people who just want to make a game "like" CP but not contain anything CP has.
Ok. But thank you for the info! I will definatly add that to the main post.
p.s. you can get a basic copyright for $45 just look at this:
http://www.copyright.gov/reports/fees2007.html
QAZAR
18 July 2007, 07:06 PM
Ok. But thank you for the info! I will definatly add that to the main post.
p.s. you can get a basic copyright for $45 just look at this:
http://www.copyright.gov/reports/fees2007.html
Basic copyright only gives you certain advantages and for a limiteed amount of time. A good copyright gets you the entire thing copyrighted under your name, and if you add somenthing new it automatically becomes a part of it without having to copyright it again. A good copyright usually lasts for 10-15 years without a renewal.
I remember a few years back Mickey mouse's copyright had ended and needed to get renewed and millions of people were trying to wrongly get the rights to it.
the $45 is for the application, kind of like colleges. $50 to apply, then they make you pay tuition.
CoolJayk
18 July 2007, 07:06 PM
Most forumers/ fan game makers wouldnt be bothered to copyright.
There game could just die...
Viper92107
18 July 2007, 07:16 PM
No there legal they just can't have a copyright.
Viper92107-I bet everything I own that you didn't know that until Qazar posted that.
Okay,
I guess you now have to give me everything you own.:P
That includes your cloths and your life.:O
Bball1067
18 July 2007, 07:39 PM
Too bad we cant have a fourm copy righter.. if you have somework RFS will give you a copyright and no1 can copy you..Plus 45 dollars for a fangame NOWAY..
Gamerboy
18 July 2007, 07:52 PM
Sucks to be American, copyright is obtained automatically here without needing to register.
So this guide is fairly useless to me. Also, fan games that are pretty much penguins and the same concept of CP are not allowed, however NHI normally doesn't mind unless you are creating a big game that isn't just a small fan game and that you are trying to make money from it.
acef596
18 July 2007, 08:18 PM
Okay,
I guess you now have to give me everything you own.:P
That includes your cloths and your life.:O
Get real kid you didn't know that.Nor know about this forum.Also gamerboy for real?U.k. gets copyright without registering.
Tarheel 4
18 July 2007, 08:22 PM
Okay,
I guess you now have to give me everything you own.:P
That includes your cloths and your life.:O
Get real kid you didn't know that.Nor know about this forum.Also gamerboy for real?U.k. gets copyright without registering.
You two stop flaming the thread and be kind.
Also,Rod Rego's game ''Waddles" was copyrighted wasnt it?Its based off Club Penguin alot.
QAZAR
18 July 2007, 08:23 PM
You two stop flaming the thread and be kind.
Also,Rod Rego's game ''Waddles" was copyrighted wasnt it?Its based off Club Penguin alot.
No it wasn't. They probably just told you that so you wouldn't copy it.
It takes months to copyright something. Also, I'm pretty sure you have to be over 18 to copyright something under your name.
Gamerboy
18 July 2007, 08:29 PM
Get real kid you didn't know that.Nor know about this forum.Also gamerboy for real?U.k. gets copyright without registering.
Yeah (well Britain at least), also I think Australia and other countries have similar policies.
You two stop flaming the thread and be kind.
Also,Rod Rego's game ''Waddles" was copyrighted wasnt it?Its based off Club Penguin alot.
No it wasn't. They probably just told you that so you wouldn't copy it.
It takes months to copyright something. Also, I'm pretty sure you have to be over 18 to copyright something under your name.
They didn't have an actual copyright that stands up in court, they had something saying that the game was their own work and that you are only allowed to do certain things. Not too sure about the legal system in the USA, but it won't stand in court like a real copyright. The copyright for Waddles is pretty much unfounded though as he copied the concept of CP, but made graphics and programmed it himself. Not exactly copyrightable.
QAZAR
18 July 2007, 08:32 PM
Yeah (well Britain at least), also I think Australia and other countries have similar policies.
They didn't have an actual copyright that stands up in court, they had something saying that the game was their own work and that you are only allowed to do certain things. Not too sure about the legal system in the USA, but it won't stand in court like a real copyright. The copyright for Waddles is pretty much unfounded though as he copied the concept of CP, but made graphics and programmed it himself. Not exactly copyrightable.
I think the way it works in Britain is that you can have total ownership when you make something, which disallows anyone from copying your work while it is in progress (kind of like a patent)
Gamerboy
18 July 2007, 08:36 PM
I think the way it works in Britain is that you can have total ownership when you make something, which disallows anyone from copying your work while it is in progress (kind of like a patent)
Copyright is not a registerable right and is obtained automatically. There are no barriers to
obtaining copyright; protection depends on three things only:
· the work must fall into a category of protected work;
· be by a qualifying author; a
the work must be original
I think there probably is copyright licensing here too in addition to that, but I don't think it's necessary for court.
I haven't researched a lot into it, but that is what I have deduced from the limited searching I have done.
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