View Full Version : Harry Potter Horcrux Debate (Hope I Spelled Right)
tgcliett
17 July 2007, 09:39 PM
My Question is why would harry be one(A Horucruxe) when Voldemort id tryinh to kill him?
Discuss!...lol
Cain
17 July 2007, 09:41 PM
Because Voldemort wanted to kill him when he was young, because Harry was told to be the one that was going to kill him.
tgcliett
17 July 2007, 09:58 PM
Re Read Post please (i edited it) because i forgot something
Cain
17 July 2007, 10:00 PM
Re Read Post please (i edited it) because i forgot something
Harry isn't a horocrux. :?:
tgcliett
17 July 2007, 11:20 PM
i know im saying some people says he is thats the debate
Kanilho
17 July 2007, 11:22 PM
But he isn't.
I don't even know why do "some people" consider him a horcrux... the horcruxes were "made" before Harry was even born according to the book.
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ambermouse
17 August 2007, 02:10 PM
this is right.I think harry isn't a horcrux because he can not be a horcrux:!:
penguindude515
17 August 2007, 03:46 PM
Dumbledore says he's a horcrux. When Voldy tried to kill Harry (the first time) he unleashed a part of his soul into Harry. DOn't remember the details though. Perhaps you should read it again. Don't you remember the prince's tail? Dumbledore tried to get Harry to die, because he was a horcrux. If Harry wasn't one, then he wouldn't have walked up to Voldemort un-armed. He was trying to get rid of himself so that Voldemort could finally die.
My Question is why would harry be one(A Horucruxe) when Voldemort id tryinh to kill him?
Discuss!...lol
Oh, I see your point. The thing is, Voldemort didn't know that Harry was a horcrux.
Dabomb2016
17 August 2007, 05:30 PM
Dumbledore says he's a horcrux. When Voldy tried to kill Harry (the first time) he unleashed a part of his soul into Harry. DOn't remember the details though. Perhaps you should read it again. Don't you remember the prince's tail? Dumbledore tried to get Harry to die, because he was a horcrux. If Harry wasn't one, then he wouldn't have walked up to Voldemort un-armed. He was trying to get rid of himself so that Voldemort could finally die.
Oh, I see your point. The thing is, Voldemort didn't know that Harry was a horcrux.
And in the The Goblet of Fire Harry's blood is used to bring Voldamore back
conman1001
17 August 2007, 07:23 PM
Harry was a Horcrux, with the death of Lily Potter that was the kill neccessary to make the Horcrux.
Voldemort didn't know that Harry was a horcrux and he wanted to kill him because Harry was the only person that could kill him.
waddles 4ever
17 August 2007, 09:07 PM
ok harry was a horcrux because when he tryed to jill harry as a baby the spell turnede and hit voldemort causing his soul to split and part of it enter harry
Ponchowinz
18 August 2007, 01:26 AM
Because Voldemort doesn't know Harry is a Horcrux so he just tries to kill him because of the prophecy.
Andrewroid
18 August 2007, 03:06 AM
people, the horcrux's are:
Harry
the Resurrection Stone
Nagini
the trophy
the locket
the diary
something else! i forget what it is.
Ponchowinz
18 August 2007, 04:01 AM
people, the horcrux's are:
Harry
the Resurrection Stone
Nagini
the trophy
the locket
the diary
something else! i forget what it is.
It wasn't the Resurrection Stone itself, it was Marvolo Gaunt's Ring.
This are all the Horcruxes and are listed by order of appearance:
Book 1 - Harry Potter's Body (1)
Book 2 - Tom Riddle's Diary (2)
Book 3 - None
Book 4 - Nagini the Snake (3)
Lord Voldemort's Body (4)
Book 5 - None
Book 6 - Marvolo Gaunt's Ring (5)
Salazar Slytherin's Locket (6)
Book 7 - Helga Hufflepuff's Cup (7)
Rowena Ravenclaw's Dieadem (8)
There were meant to be 7 counting Voldemort's body, but he accidentally made Harry's body a Horcrux without knowing, so he never knew that if HE fulfilled the prophecy he would lose a part of his soul, so Voldemort wasn't as smart as he thought he was.
Many people say Voldemort's body isn't a Horcrux, and it isn't, but you can consider him one because a part of his soul resides in him, so I'll take him as a Horcrux.
And Harry IS a Horcrux because when the Killing Curse Voldemort shot at Harry turned back to him the rest of the soul that was in his body broke and a part of it got trapped in Harry, and when Harry was killed by Voldemort in The Deathly Hallows, he wasn't actually killed because he let Voldemort kill him to protect others, so Harry's soul got intact while the bit of Voldemort's soul got destroyed.
And I remember stupid Harry web pages saying that J.K. said that there was a 100% chance of Harry getting killed, so she tricked everyone, but never lied cause Harry did get killed at the end, guess that she was way smarter than stupid guys inventing spoiler.
penguindude515
18 August 2007, 07:19 PM
It wasn't the Resurrection Stone itself, it was Marvolo Gaunt's Ring.
This are all the Horcruxes and are listed by order of appearance:
Book 1 - Harry Potter's Body (1)
Book 2 - Tom Riddle's Diary (2)
Book 3 - None
Book 4 - Nagini the Snake (3)
Lord Voldemort's Body (4)
Book 5 - None
Book 6 - Marvolo Gaunt's Ring (5)
Salazar Slytherin's Locket (6)
Book 7 - Helga Hufflepuff's Cup (7)
Rowena Ravenclaw's Dieadem (8)
There were meant to be 7 counting Voldemort's body, but he accidentally made Harry's body a Horcrux without knowing, so he never knew that if HE fulfilled the prophecy he would lose a part of his soul, so Voldemort wasn't as smart as he thought he was.
Many people say Voldemort's body isn't a Horcrux, and it isn't, but you can consider him one because a part of his soul resides in him, so I'll take him as a Horcrux.
And Harry IS a Horcrux because when the Killing Curse Voldemort shot at Harry turned back to him the rest of the soul that was in his body broke and a part of it got trapped in Harry, and when Harry was killed by Voldemort in The Deathly Hallows, he wasn't actually killed because he let Voldemort kill him to protect others, so Harry's soul got intact while the bit of Voldemort's soul got destroyed.
And I remember stupid Harry web pages saying that J.K. said that there was a 100% chance of Harry getting killed, so she tricked everyone, but never lied cause Harry did get killed at the end, guess that she was way smarter than stupid guys inventing spoiler.
Harry didn't die. He sort of did, but Dumledore said he didn't. Also, Voldemort wasn't a horcrux. He had a part of his soul, but it wasn't separated from him, and that's what makes a horcrux.
Poetic
18 August 2007, 07:22 PM
My Question is why would harry be one(A Horucruxe) when Voldemort id tryinh to kill him?
Discuss!...lol
Try reading the book...
It's a bit more in depth than spoilers.
kezzamanezza
19 August 2007, 04:35 AM
My Question is why would harry be one(A Horucruxe) when Voldemort id tryinh to kill him?
Discuss!...lol
voldemort tried to kill harry but accidentally passed a bit of his soul on to harry, because he killed james.
Harry didn't die. He sort of did, but Dumledore said he didn't. Also, Voldemort wasn't a horcrux. He had a part of his soul, but it wasn't separated from him, and that's what makes a horcrux.
the part of the soul in harry died, not harry
Yellowtail
19 August 2007, 12:21 PM
Voldermort didn't know that Harry was a horcrux.
Sliverstream
20 August 2007, 02:08 AM
voldemort tried to kill harry but accidentally passed a bit of his soul on to harry, because he killed james.
the part of the soul in harry died, not harry
It was not the dead of James that caused the splitting of Voldermorts soul. When Voldermort tryed to kill Harry his mom's (Lily) love acted as a shield which is why part of the curse rebounded to Voldermort causing part of his soul to split which then entered Harry. So, when Voldermort attemped to kill Harry Voldermort killed part of himself.:):O:!:
Andrewroid
20 August 2007, 08:49 AM
no, the part of the soul that was in Voldemort at the time when into Harry.
and Voldemort isn't a Horcrux. and the Resurrection Stone, Marvalo Gaunt's Ring, same thing.
Madfly
20 August 2007, 12:39 PM
The reason Harry could'nt have died when Voldy died, Voldy's curse ripped the part of him out of Harry. Harry was a Horcrux.
Baboons33
20 August 2007, 05:06 PM
The Horcruxs' were parts of Voldemort's soul that he put into seven different things so Harry had to kill the 7 Horcruxs'. When Harry "died", Dumboldore sent him back. Then waited for the right time to finish off Voldemort. So when Harry destroyed himself for the moment, he destroyed the Horcrux. Then Voldemort was able to die because the last of his soul was gone.
penguindude515
20 August 2007, 10:57 PM
no, the part of the soul that was in Voldemort at the time when into Harry.
and Voldemort isn't a Horcrux. and the Resurrection Stone, Marvalo Gaunt's Ring, same thing.
No, the ring has the resurrection stone on it, but it's not the stone itself.
The Horcruxs' were parts of Voldemort's soul that he put into seven different things so Harry had to kill the 7 Horcruxs'. When Harry "died", Dumboldore sent him back. Then waited for the right time to finish off Voldemort. So when Harry destroyed himself for the moment, he destroyed the Horcrux. Then Voldemort was able to die because the last of his soul was gone.
We all know that.
Andrewroid
21 August 2007, 09:04 AM
dude, no need for so much critisicm. as for the "died" part, harry wasn't sent back, he was just unconscious.
DirkD
21 August 2007, 03:36 PM
I think that the book was well laid out, i had no problem understanding it, and i think it made perfectly good sense! Maybe you dozed off or something and skipped some pages???
Dirk
ArcboundMyr
21 August 2007, 05:07 PM
Harry isn't a horocrux. :?:
When Voldemort tried to kill Harry, he transferred some of his soul into him, which gave him his Parseltongue abilities. As long as Harry lives, Voldemort is immortal I think.
penguindude515
21 August 2007, 06:42 PM
When Voldemort tried to kill Harry, he transferred some of his soul into him, which gave him his Parseltongue abilities. As long as Harry lives, Voldemort is immortal I think.
No, because when Harry "died", the part of Voldemort in Harry was destroyed.
dude, no need for so much critisicm. as for the "died" part, harry wasn't sent back, he was just unconscious.
He wasn't unconsious. Didn't you notice that he arrived back the exact second he died? Anyways, there's no possible explanation for the the whole Dumbledore/Harry chapter except for Dumbledore's explanation of "Of course it's in your head! But that doesn't mean it isn't real".
Ponchowinz
21 August 2007, 10:44 PM
no, the part of the soul that was in Voldemort at the time when into Harry.
and Voldemort isn't a Horcrux. and the Resurrection Stone, Marvalo Gaunt's Ring, same thing.
Nope, the ring and the stone are not the same thing, if you took the stone from the ring, the Horcrux wouldn't be the stone, because Voldemort didn't knew it was a Deathly Hallow, so he made the RING a Horcrux, not the stone.
No, the ring has the resurrection stone on it, but it's not the stone itself.
Thank you.
JeffHardy
21 August 2007, 11:55 PM
i dont like harry potter never understanded it lol
penguindude515
21 August 2007, 11:59 PM
Nope, the ring and the stone are not the same thing, if you took the stone from the ring, the Horcrux wouldn't be the stone, because Voldemort didn't knew it was a Deathly Hallow, so he made the RING a Horcrux, not the stone.
Thank you.
Your welcome.
P.S. I couldn't help but notice that the people who said Harry isn't a horcrux haven't posted to defend themselves, or admit they were wrong. :rolleyes:
Sliverstream
22 August 2007, 01:59 AM
Ok, we get it Harry was one of the Horcxes and that Voldermort killed part of his soul at not Harry:!::!::)
Andrewroid
22 August 2007, 08:20 AM
thats exactly correct. i don't know why anyone was confused anyway.
cricket king
26 August 2007, 09:55 AM
Dumbledore says he's a horcrux. When Voldy tried to kill Harry (the first time) he unleashed a part of his soul into Harry. DOn't remember the details though. Perhaps you should read it again. Don't you remember the prince's tail? Dumbledore tried to get Harry to die, because he was a horcrux. If Harry wasn't one, then he wouldn't have walked up to Voldemort un-armed. He was trying to get rid of himself so that Voldemort could finally die.
Oh, I see your point. The thing is, Voldemort didn't know that Harry was a horcrux.
Very true, Harry's a Horcrux as Dumbledore' portrait told him. I still remember from 3 weeks ago lol.
xboxmaster129
26 August 2007, 08:43 PM
I got a question what is a horcrux?
xboxmaster129
penguindude515
27 August 2007, 12:12 AM
I got a question what is a horcrux?
xboxmaster129
Read the books. A horcrux is an item with part of someone's soul enchanted into it.
Andrewroid
28 August 2007, 08:31 AM
Read the books. A horcrux is an item with part of someone's soul enchanted into it.
fantastically put. that's basically what a horcrux is.
Ponchowinz
28 August 2007, 10:19 PM
dude, no need for so much critisicm. as for the "died" part, harry wasn't sent back, he was just unconscious.
He actually DID die, but some sort of charm (Fidelus Charm like) protected him from passing away, so he was dead, he was protected because he offered himself to stop other people from dying, and good thoughts and means always protect Harry from Voldemort.
So when he let Voldemort kill him to make him a mortal, the charm gave him the pleasure to get rid of Voldemort by himself, and doing so fullfil the prophecy.
And now I'm starting to believe that prophecy is the thing that kept Harry alive, I'll e-mail JK and ask her personally.
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